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Posted on 7/3/20 at 4:20 pm to wm72
Posted on 7/3/20 at 4:20 pm to wm72
Apparently, ya'll haven't figured out that nobody knows for sure what is going on with virus yet.
There is the exception of course of those who say nothing is going on and it is a big governmental hoax,
There is the exception of course of those who say nothing is going on and it is a big governmental hoax,
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Posted on 7/3/20 at 5:16 pm to wm72
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That last sentence is quite an exaggeration.
I stand by it.
I posted the story upthread. The WHO stopped all their research based primarily on studies that used the same data source - and that data source was fabricated.
If the drug makes as little as a 5% difference you're talking about tens of thousands worldwide.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 6:29 pm to JustGetItRight
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I stand by it.
I posted the story upthread. The WHO stopped all their research based primarily on studies that used the same data source - and that data source was fabricated.
If the drug makes as little as a 5% difference you're talking about tens of thousands worldwide.
It's curious to jump so wholeheartedly behind this single observational pre-print study when there are so many other recent ones saying the exact opposite.
I have no idea myself but I would not be so quick to discount the numerous other studies as all wrong and this single one as right.
The major study funded by the US in Albany NY (high profile from beginning to end) really didn't show any difference.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 7:36 pm to wm72
I admit I have a lot of anger that’s based on what happened with the faked studies. Those were supposed to have been peer reviewed by respected professionals yet they ignored what were obvious red flags like big numbers of reported covid /hydro deaths in places with few or no reported covid cases. That should never happen but it did and you cannot help but wonder how much politics influenced the level of scrutiny they applied.
I’ll let it go at this point. Time will tell one way or the other as to effective treatments.
I’ll let it go at this point. Time will tell one way or the other as to effective treatments.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 8:37 pm to JustGetItRight
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I admit I have a lot of anger that’s based on what happened with the faked studies. Those were supposed to have been peer reviewed by respected professionals yet they ignored what were obvious red flags like big numbers of reported covid /hydro deaths in places with few or no reported covid cases. That should never happen but it did and you cannot help but wonder how much politics influenced the level of scrutiny they applied.
It was actually criticisms of just that in early peer review of the Lancet study that led them to retract the paper. The problem was that the gun had been jumped all over the place before that process had played out.
And that's the case with all these pre-review studies. I posted on the rocky early reception of the German study about the early pre- or a-symptomatic spread theory that would eventually become a groundbreaking moment a few pages back.
It's a conundrum when you do want access to the most cutting edge research theories in almost "real time" but there are also political and financial forces pulling in all directions with vested interests in certain results.
That said, I hope they find that every single medicine they test helps in at least some specific way.
Seems we are making some slow headway in treatment (unless the virus is just weakening a bit and we really aren't discovering much at all). But, it's been a lot slower than anybody had hoped. That's a source for huge frustration for everyone who actually cares.
Also, I respond to a lot of your posts but it's mainly because I appreciate your opinions and above all that you give some thoughtful consideration to opposing views. We'd all be in a better place if there were more of that going on.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:09 pm to wm72
My sister and her husband just tested positive. Both are asymptomatic and wouldn’t have known they had it if my Sisters coworkers didn’t test positive.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:04 pm to mistaken4193
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My sister and her husband just tested positive. Both are asymptomatic and wouldn’t have known they had it if my Sisters coworkers didn’t test positive.
This is the prevalent reason there are so many "new cases." Many are going back to work and are tested. They test positive without ever having symptoms. When they do almost all need two clean tests before going back to work.
There have several reports of groups of nurses and doctors who send in unused tests with fake names that come back positive, so who know what is true anymore?
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:28 pm to CrimsonShadow
Had an interesting situation with a member of my volunteer FD last week.
He presented at the local ER with difficulty breathing and what he described as moderate chest pain (actually his RN live in girlfriend drove him there after his dumb emt arse said he didn’t want her to call 911).
As part of his work up the local ER did a quickie covid test which came back positive. He also came with elevated cardiac enzymes, which got him transferred to a more advanced facility.
They also did a quickie covid test, but their test came back negative. They did a 3rd test of a different type which came negative a few days later. A stent later he is fine apparently covid-free.
It got us asking - is he a covid case or not? Seems pretty clear the first test was a false positive but I wonder if they track to that level of detail.
He presented at the local ER with difficulty breathing and what he described as moderate chest pain (actually his RN live in girlfriend drove him there after his dumb emt arse said he didn’t want her to call 911).
As part of his work up the local ER did a quickie covid test which came back positive. He also came with elevated cardiac enzymes, which got him transferred to a more advanced facility.
They also did a quickie covid test, but their test came back negative. They did a 3rd test of a different type which came negative a few days later. A stent later he is fine apparently covid-free.
It got us asking - is he a covid case or not? Seems pretty clear the first test was a false positive but I wonder if they track to that level of detail.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 1:37 pm to JustGetItRight
I would imagine his positive test is being counted.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 2:03 pm to gumpinmizzou
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My parents friends went to get tested for coronavirus. They waited in line for two hours and then decided to leave without getting tested.
Hours later they got a phone call saying they tested positive.
They are lying about coronavirus numbers in Texas. Quite disgusting.
Similar stories have supposedly happened in Alabama too. If true, someone needs to investigate. Like I said, I don’t know if these stories are true or not.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 2:28 pm to Cobrasize
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Yesterday, the Michigan study showed *late* use of HCQ + Azithromycin cut COVID deaths by 50%.
Today, our study shows *early* use of Zinc + HCQ + Azithromycin cut COVID deaths by 80%.
How much longer can our leaders ignore the science? Hydroxychloroquine works.
Dr. Zen Zelenko twitter]
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 7/4/20 at 2:33 pm to Cobrasize
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Similar stories have supposedly happened in Alabama too. If true, someone needs to investigate. Like I said, I don’t know if these stories are true or not.
Who knows about positive cases but I do believe the rise in hospital numbers rising and deaths continue to happen.
I am not sure why Texas would falsify numbers when they gave been advocating to reopen everything. The states that have seen increases coincide with the states that rushed to reopen from the start.
Everyone can make their own choice in the end whether or not they will follow the law, guidance, or whatever else they are required to or feel is in their best interest. If you break the law and get arrested your choice, you end up in the hospital your choice, and if your family has to mourn your choice.
The problem I have with most of this is not numbers or people that are willing to make good judgement. It is the people who no matter what have no regard for any other human and only themselves, their interest and those that want to be defiant because they want to prove a point.Those are the ones in the end I have no sympathy for no matter the result when this is over.
Posted on 7/5/20 at 6:21 pm to TideWarrior
Uh-oh, this isn't good.
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Also read a story out of Britain this morning that I can't find the link to that stated that a researcher over there thinks that Rona has been around the entire world for some time but something triggered it's emergence from latency. He points to the waste water samples in Italy and Spain that showed presence of the virus in Feb 2019! His theory was it's been in the environment and emerged as a pathogen from some unknown trigger. He also pointed to the disappearance of SARS1 and asked if COVID19 would do the same thing.
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Also read a story out of Britain this morning that I can't find the link to that stated that a researcher over there thinks that Rona has been around the entire world for some time but something triggered it's emergence from latency. He points to the waste water samples in Italy and Spain that showed presence of the virus in Feb 2019! His theory was it's been in the environment and emerged as a pathogen from some unknown trigger. He also pointed to the disappearance of SARS1 and asked if COVID19 would do the same thing.
Posted on 7/5/20 at 6:26 pm to phil4bama
I think this has been around for awhile too. I believe something happened to make it much more contagious.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:09 am to Cobrasize
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At the Georgia Institute of Technology, which is scheduled to hold in-person classes, more than 800 of its 1,100 faculty members have published a letter outlining their concerns. The letter, reported by Georgia Public Broadcasting, criticizes the state university system for mandating statewide reopenings this fall that "do not follow science-based evidence, increase the health risks to faculty, students and staff, and interfere with nimble decision-making necessary to prepare and respond to Covid-19 infection risk."
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:40 am to Cobrasize
The brain eating amoeba is back in Florida. So that’s just great
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:27 pm to Cobrasize
Did you miss the story about the suspected case of bubonic plague in Mongolia? You wanna talk about a scary disease that ain’t “just the flu”, investigate bubonic plague. Makes ‘Rona look like a hangnail.
Just when you thought the state of Florida couldn’t act any more pig headed than they already have, the education commissioner today decreed that all schools will be opened for class in August. School is scheduled to start in 30 days. A lot more shite can hit the fan in 30 days.
Just when you thought the state of Florida couldn’t act any more pig headed than they already have, the education commissioner today decreed that all schools will be opened for class in August. School is scheduled to start in 30 days. A lot more shite can hit the fan in 30 days.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:34 pm to phil4bama
I just read about the plague a little bit ago. This year just sucks. It even took Charlie Daniels!!
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:12 am to Cobrasize
Uh-uh. 2020 didnt “take” Charlie. He looked around and saw the clusterfrick that is 2020 and decided to get the hell out of Dodge.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 9:00 am to phil4bama
Hey fearmonger, schools should open up and that plague happens every year. Like 7 times in the U.S. last year. Stop reading fear shite.
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