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Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:01 pm to
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Holy crap. People are taking things out of context, and others aren't communicating clearly, and y'all are creating a poopstorm of epic proportions over nothing.

Not to put words in anybody's mouth, but here's what I THINK folks are saying:



Not sure why you're trying to clean up TidalSurge's comments when he has doubled down on them. Only ambiguity that remains is who decides which groups fall into the parameters he's set that are deserving of mass execution.

Though that really doesn't take much to deduce who he's talking about.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:01 pm to
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That is avoiding the question. You're calling for the mass murder of Americans and can't give me the perimeters for who falls into that category.
I didn't call for "mass executions" or "mass murder". Those words are yours and Spleen's attempts to distort and misrepresent the gist of what I posted. I don't work for the FBI or CIA, so I don't know who the main leaders are or how many there are. If they're Americans, they're 100% guilty of treason. If wiretaps, etc. clearly show they're guilty, I have no problem with them being covertly eliminated without the same "due process" American citizens are ordinarily entitled to in criminal cases, as publicized trials would likely lead to extensive rioting.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
1095 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:06 pm to
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Not sure why you're trying to clean up TidalSurge's comments when he has doubled down on them.


Well, it took me a few minutes to type all that out. And as I said, I'm not trying to speak for anybody. Just trying to clarify a few things.

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Only ambiguity that remains is who decides which groups fall into the parameters he's set that are deserving of mass execution.


Bolding mine.

I think that's disingenuous in the extreme. From what I can tell, no one has implied "mass executions" are in order.

As far as who would set the parameters for the justice to be meted out ... it would be the very judicial system the seditionists and treasonous individuals want to destroy.

Assuming anyone was found guilty, of course.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12781 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:07 pm to
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It has literally nothing to do with anything and is a hilarious example of a struggling attempt you made to do exactly what you bitched about.


Except I am not bitching about anything nor am I struggling with regards to commenting on your post. I simply read your post regarding your concerns and responded. You did not like my post and responded back. I do not see anywhere in my post that I was bitching or complaining. I simply replied and pointed out a narrative you presented based your beliefs and called it into question.
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4326 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:12 pm to
So a bunch of people are taking the to streets to block traffic and smash windows due to perceived serious injustices against them or members of specific communities and you want their "leaders" killed even though it is primarily decentralized which means that the designation of leadership would have to be very broad and any number of people could be included that but it is not mass murder?

If I hit up some friends to join me at a protest and people smash up a cop car, does that make me a "leader"? Do I get killed in this fantasy of yours?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:14 pm to
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I think that's disingenuous in the extreme.


Here's the post that started the discussion. It's back on page 102, and is in response to a comment about Marxist scum protesting.

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Isn't inciting nation-wide rioting and anarchy a serious treasonous crime? Yes, it certainly is.

So, covertly arrest them and dump them at the north pole from an airplane at very high altitude. They'll crystalize and then shatter. Or ball & chain them and dump them into the open ocean or a volcano full of fiery molten lava. Game over.

I'm serious. And that's all I have to say about it.


Seems pretty clear to me he is advocating mass executions.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:14 pm to
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So a bunch of people are taking the to streets to block traffic and smash windows due to perceived serious injustices against them


No one has a right to smash windows or block streets
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4326 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:16 pm to
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No one has a right to smash windows or block streets


But they should be murdered for it? Or murdered for organizing it?
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:18 pm to
I’ve stated they should go to prison and be forced to pay restitution. If they are charged with treason, then that’s punishable by death.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:27 pm to
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Seems pretty clear to me he is advocating mass executions.

Of course it does.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:29 pm to
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Of course it does.



I mean, you doubled down on it, so there really isn't much ambiguity here.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:30 pm to
"mass" is your erroneous interpretation. My post was about eliminating a few top leaders of organizations (e.g., Antifa) bent on destroying America from within.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4326 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:32 pm to
I respect edits as sometimes shite gets left out and grammatical errors happen, especially as I am sure a bunch of use our phones here. I do it on like 75% of my posts, I'm sure.

However, editing the content of your post instead of replying is disingenuous.

quote:

Those words are yours and Spleen's attempts to distort and misrepresent the gist of what I posted


quote:

Marxist scum have already pledged to riot if the President tries to replace her before the election.

Isn't inciting nation-wide rioting and anarchy a serious treasonous crime? Yes, it certainly is.

So, covertly arrest them and dump them at the north pole from an airplane at very high altitude. They'll crystalize and then shatter. Or ball & chain them and dump them into the open ocean or a volcano full of fiery molten lava. Game over.

I'm serious. And that's all I have to say about it.


is your post. You in no way specified "who" that was other than "marxist scum who have pledged to riot". That is extremely broad and in no way limited to a handful or organizers that you want to assassinate, which also is still abhorrent political violence.

Do you not see how, with rhetoric being what it is today, a person who is more on the left could easily interpret that to be targeted at them?




Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4326 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:34 pm to
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"mass" is your erroneous interpretataion.


But you can't even define the number. So how is that erroneous?
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:36 pm to
I've clarifed that my post was about eliminating "a few top leaders of organizations (e.g., Antifa) bent on destroying America from within. That's what I was thinking about when I posted it. Obviously, I should've made that clear.

I expect that you and Spleen will continue to insist that you weren't mistaken in your own misinterpretation and misrepresentation of what I meant by my post.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 4:12 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:37 pm to
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"mass" is your erroneous interpretataion. My post was about eliminating a few top leaders of organizations bent on destroying America from within.




Yep. Mass implies multiple, which you advocate for right here in this post by using plural nouns. So no misinterpretation from me.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11776 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:38 pm to
I'll just ask one question and hang up and listen: where has ignoring/condoning these protests by the standing government agencies like in Portland gotten us? Have they stopped? Protesting is ok. Rioting, looting, and destroying private property is not. And six months from now, these same rioters and local politicians will be standing there with their hands out for Federal dollars to revitalize their cities because the small business owner who has lost his livelihood when his or her business was looted and burned has fled the cities for the suburbs. Not my tax dollars; live in the shithole you created by being a dumbass.

The young whites y'all are speaking about mostly identify with Antifa which is about the dumbest fricking movement out there. They call themselves anarchists, but basically it's just a cover for bored, young, affluent SJW wannabes to take to the streets and act like thugs and criminals. And they deserve to have their teeth knocked out and be thrown in jail because they are fighting for NOTHING. They are violent just to be violent. They are mostly white, often female, and mostly middle to upper middle class, and won't do shite unless they have overwhelming numbers in their favor. When met with equal or anywhere near equal force, they turn tail and haul arse like the cowards they are. They don't have a damn thing to be "disaffected" by except tired of being a Karen. I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:40 pm to
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quote:

"mass" is your erroneous interpretation. My post was about eliminating a few top leaders of organizations (e.g., Antifa) bent on destroying America from within.

Yep. Mass implies multiple, which you advocate for right here in this post by using plural nouns. So no misinterpretation from me.

"a few top leaders" of such organizations is not "mass" quantities of Americans.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:40 pm to
I agree with everything you said
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4326 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:40 pm to
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Tbh, I really couldn't care less what you or Spleen think or say


That's fine. I'm not here to change your mind. I'm just here to point out very clearly that ambiguous posts about killing an unknown amount of Americans because they disagree with you politically and block streets when they encounter perceived injustices are disgusting, anti-american and shouldn't be tolerated on a football forum.
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