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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)

Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by Bamainva40
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Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:40 pm to
Avery has shown the past couple of weeks he can adjust . These kids will get better and I think a top 5-8 finish next year in the SEC might be selling them short. Unfortunately no amount of scheming or coaching would matter if the opponent shoots lights out ...ie Villanova.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:43 pm to
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Avery has shown the past couple of weeks he can adjust
Did he adjust, or did Sexton just start scoring 20+/game?
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:48 pm to
I don't like our offense. I would like more ball movement and less standing around. I think that's how you create confusion for a defense. What we do is pretty pedestrian
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:53 pm to
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These kids will get better and I think a top 5-8 finish next year in the SEC might be selling them short


I'd point out the 5-8 would be in next years ridiculous anticipated conference strength

If the kids make the jump they are capable of making, the roster would be capable of 3-5 say this season/last season


Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:58 pm to
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If Avery shows some great coaching ability I think Bama roster can be a 5-8 type SEC team which should be auto NCAAT bid



And where would you have us if Avery just has another year like this?
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:08 am to
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And where would you have us if Avery just has another year like this?


First I've said here before I think this rosters year is in 2019-2020. Most of the guys are 2 years of development away from really stepping up. Avery's performance this year I see no reason for saying roster +recruits are SEC championship caliber competitors Top 1-3 in 2 yrs

I'm just not sold on them reloading AND improving in a deeper league after losing Sexton. So with the roster Bama is getting back? 7-11
In this year's SEC? Around 6-10

Right now I see Avery staff's true strength is recruiting. You can absolutely win by recruiting too. I mean Leonard Hamilton made NCAAT and he can't coach for shite. I just don't think his coaching + recruits can offset the loss of Sexton in an ultra deep league next yr

Right now the roster has guys who have potential, but they have a long development to get there, both in terms of development + adjusting to huge usage increases





This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 12:17 am
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:31 am to
Excited as frick but no way he should come back. Even though I think he could develop a more consistent shot....but hell If I was him I would rather be getting paid while it developed.
Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 1:18 am to
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 So with the roster Bama is getting back? 7-11


What SEC teams are losing...

UGA- Not including possible transfers, losing 2 of their top 3 scorers including Yante Maten

USCe- Losing their only other decent scorer outside of Silva (Booker) and their 4th leading scorer

Mizzou- Losing their far and away 3 best players.

Vandy- coming off of a terrible year they're losing their far and away best 3 players.

Ole Miss- not counting the inevitable transfers, they're losing 2 of their best and only 5 scorers (including their second leading scorer) and they're coming off of a terrible year as well.

Arkansas- losing their best 4 players.

You're saying that only 3 of those teams are definitely looking worse off than we are? I'm not sure how you think the SEC will be better next year from top to bottom. Of the 5 worst SEC teams this year the only one that should improve is LSU. All the other 4 should be the same or most likely worse.

Missouri and Arkansas should be both be MUCH worse next year. Florida is losing Chiozza and Koulechov.


This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 1:20 am
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 1:40 am to
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You're saying that only 3 of those teams are definitely looking worse off than we are?


You do realize Bama should have the most difficult schedule in the SEC by a large margin right? I'm factoring that in

Not only do you have permanent H/H w MSU/AU/LSU who will fight for top 5, some other best teams rotate to road games (if not H/H)

@TN
@UK
@UF


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Vandy


Bringing in an unbelievable recruiting class, they could be boom or bust but can't guarantee either

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Mizzou


Should have the easiest permanent opponents in Ole Miss, TAMU and Arkansas which is a huge boost

If they return the younger Porter, Tillman, Puryear and add a transfer that is an extremely talented and stout lineup

More importantly they win a ton at home because of the travel advantage. They should be 8-10+ yearly just due to that


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USCe- Losing their only other decent scorer outside of Silva (Booker) and their 4th leading scorer 


I've always been high on SC for next year and maybe I'm wrong.

I think their core returning of Gravet, Minaya, Haas, Silva and Kotsar is very stout and will be great at the defensive end.

Also outside chance that Bowen returns


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I'm not sure how you think the SEC will be better next year from top to bottom


I think 1-6 will be significantly better next year.

I think Bama w solid development is in the 5-8 range but y'all are about to get stuck with H/H 2x matchups against 4-5 of the likely top 6 preseason



Who would you put Bama clearly in the mix with for them to be projected better than 7-11 with average development?


This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 1:43 am
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 1:49 am to
I see UK, Au, UT as favorites with us behind them along with miss st. Vandy and LSU could be boom or bust...Both great classes but that doesn't guarantee success. In my mind that's the 7 best teams though. Bama will again benefit from good OOC schedule with Arizona and Rhode island along with the gildan classic which will also have Davidson, Wichita St, VA tech and Purdue ...Then we ll have someone in sec/big 12 challenge. Hopefully we can get 22 regular season wins and set ourselves up better.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:06 am to
We should destroy AZ next year. They arent gonna be very good.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:09 am to
UK,UT,AU,Bama,and MSST are the clear top 5 next year IMO. With LSU not far behind.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:10 am to
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We should destroy AZ next year. They arent gonna be very good.


Rhode Island will be even worse. Not only are they likely to lose HC Hurley, they lose just about every good player on that team
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:11 am to
I agree... UK, UT, barn or Bama , state 5 and LSU 6th.
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:16 am to
Arizona won't be top 5 or top 10 but they'll still be a good team. I agree about Rhode island but I wanna say they are a junior heavy team. I know ec Mathews is a SR but losing Hurley to a bigger job will sting.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25482 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:17 am to
Is URI at home or are we making a return trip??

Also when are they gonna announce the reconstruction of Coleman and our move to the BJCC next year??



Does anybody know?
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 2:18 am
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:17 am to
I just don't see it until 2019-20 season. I think the key guys you'll need to develop are 2 year projects


Also MSU is easily in the top 3-4, anyone who thinks otherwise is being naive. I think they'll be a better team than TN/AU
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 2:18 am
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:18 am to
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Arizona won't be top 5 or top 10 but they'll still be a good team.


Zona fan here, they won't be a tournament team unless they hit the transfer market hard

I'm actually pretty pissed about this
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 2:19 am
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:22 am to
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agree about Rhode island but I wanna say they are a junior heavy team


They have a couple SOs who are solid, experienced that will return but that's it.

They would take a huge step back even if Hurley was there. Without Hurley they'll be lucky to crack top 5 A10
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:32 am to
I'm not sold on miss st , they piled up over half their wins against cupcakes. Don't see them being better than ut or Auburn , unless heron leaves for draft. I'm not in the idiotic "we ll be better without Sexton" crowd but we ll be better I believe due to maturity and experience...Along with what we re adding. Butler can be a setup pg and add alot to help petty and Mack flourish. Mack is a proven scorer on the power 5 level, hall should improve and galin Smith emerged down the stretch. The pieces are there to make a leap forward.
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