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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)

Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:06 pm to
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I know we should just be happy to be in, but I really do hope we snag a win just so we can break another streak.


Yea I'm definitely not just happy to be in. I want us to get to the 2nd weekend.

I'm not gonna get mad if we don't, but I'm not satisfied as just being there for sure.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:11 pm to
So with Sexton leaving next year, is there anyway Butler is the starting PG next year? I really don't want Ingram back at point next year.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:21 pm to
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So with Sexton leaving next year, is there anyway Butler is the starting PG next year? I really don't want Ingram back at point next year


You forgot that Sexton is going to take us to the Final Four and return because he wants the ring.

Last I heard is the staff is confident that Butler can come in and start. I definitely don't think it'll be the end of the world if Ingram starts at PG though. I know it doesn't seem like his natural position, but it's hard to deny that he played better there last year than on the wing this year.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:22 pm to
Come on Houston, kick Wichita's arse.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:27 pm to
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You forgot that Sexton is going to take us to the Final Four and return because he wants the ring.



Actually just got news that he does intend on going to the NBA after recent news of Steve Kerr joining the Alabama staff as an assistant this offseason. Rumors are he would have preferred Popovich.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37838 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:28 pm to
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So with Sexton leaving next year, is there anyway Butler is the starting PG next year? I really don't want Ingram back at point next year.


You mean starting back up point guard right?

Your Lord and savior Junior Johnson is starting bruh
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6044 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:29 pm to
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Where's the greatness gonna come from? His handle is poor, he's got no intermediate range shot and his 3 point ranges is very iffy. He's athletic, but not overly quick, and his first step is average...I'm just not seeing it. 


He has the potential to be a bigger Trevor Releford. Releford was a terrible shooter his first 2 years, small, not very athletic, but used strength and savvy to get by defenders and was a great finisher. He improved his jump shot, and his entire game opened up. I'm not saying Ingram will be the next Releford (in fact I'd say he won't be), but he certainly has the potential to be a similarly great player.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37838 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:30 pm to
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USC was THE dynasty. 


Honestly nuts how quick it went from USC dynasty forever to Bama + USC dumpster fire

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:37 pm to
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have heard several former SEC basketball coaches that think Ingram is a very good player.


Outside perspective here from someone who thinks Ingram is a baby back bitch (off court personality in interview/social media... Maybe a little haircut bias) Ingram is a very good role player/6th man utility guy

If you are relying on Ingram to be an option 1 guy, you're going to have a bad time

If you are relying on Ingram to be an option 2-3 guy and give you rebounding, decent D and mismatches you are doing it right

This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 3:56 pm to
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He has the potential to be a bigger Trevor Releford. 


The "player potential" comparison you want is a more ball handling dominant Mustapha Heron

Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6044 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:01 pm to
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The "player potential" comparison you want is a more ball handling dominant Mustapha Heron


That's a good one too. If Ingram can develop a jumpshot like Releford did his 3rd year, it'll help his entire game open up.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:06 pm to
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Honestly nuts how quick it went from USC dynasty forever to Bama + USC dumpster fire



Sanctions will do that to you. USC could have attracted any HC in the nation too with the facilities and surrounding talent base. Instead they took a risk on Kiffin- who looked like a good hire at the time- and have really not looked back since.

Back to basketball, I'd like a rematch with Creighton to get revenge for this horse shite.



Not that it really matters, because we would have been killed by UNC in the next round, but getting that win would have been big. At the same time, I would not want to play Virginia. Just omitting what they've done this year, we turn the ball over way too much against teams like that. Most of the time it's not even the opposing team doing much, just bad mental errors.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
7037 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:26 pm to
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Honestly nuts how quick it went from USC dynasty forever to Bama + USC dumpster fire




I thank the SEC for that. It's crazy how a balanced league like the Pac10 became USC and the dwarves so quickly during Carroll's romp. The SEC never backed down from Alabama and Saban and it kept us from ever getting too complacent and allowed us to rack up a loss and still be in contention.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40978 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:32 pm to
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someone who thinks Ingram is a baby back bitch (off court personality in interview/social media.



Wut?

Anytime I've ever seen or heard him speak he's been soft spoken, humble, and polite.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25413 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:35 pm to
He did me piss me off when he made those comments about not coming off the bench. He's one of those guys that just looks like he has a shitty demeanor on the court.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37838 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:53 pm to
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would not want to play Virginia. 


They'd be almost a worst case matchup for Bama

They are near impossible to run on. They don't turn the ball iver (#8 TO%) and they effectively abandon Off rebounds to Sprint back on defense. (#51 DReb% vs #212 OReb%)

In the half court, their packline defense specializes against dribble drive penetration + inside passing. It is designed to swallow players like Sexton

Oh and UVA rarely commits fouls. They are #24 in FT/FGA on defense. While some of that is because the low possession #s = no bonus FTs, it is still extremely impressive for an elite D


Virginia is very beatable when a team is hot and makes plays. It's why they never really win IYAM since one NCAAT caliber team in 6 games will be

I just would never ever want to play them and gamble whether I'll be hot
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:57 pm to
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The way teams beat UVA is by multiple passes to open man then making catch and shoot 3FGs

Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 5:04 pm to
Only happened twice this year.

Is it good that Houston beat Wichita St?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37838 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 5:10 pm to
If you ever watch a UVA game, it is very easy to see why they win 30+ almost annually, even against good 3fg schools

That defense is smothering. It is absolutely unreal what they are able to do.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 5:16 pm to
It's always good when Wichita loses.


I like Virginia. They just grind your arse down. Nothing really flashy, just good ball.
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