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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:50 am to TiderNAL
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:50 am to TiderNAL
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I guess I was thinking that if we beat A&M we will have to play in a play-in game for an 11 seed spot. Is there another way we get in?
Ah got ya - yea I agree. Technically that play-in game is a NCAA Tournament game, but yea I think you are right.
We'd probably need to beat Auburn and A&M to avoid playing in Dayton.
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I don't think we do
Assuming Bama goes 1-1...
While beating TAMU potentially gives you another Q1 win** keep in mind that Bama could conceivably lose quite a few Q1 games
Alabama Games at risk of moving to Q2
v TAMU (H) - RD1 loss to Bama puts them at 28, right at the edge
v Texas (N) - Win v Iowa St + Loss v Texas Tech puts them at 51, a Q2 game
v Miss St (A) - MSU loss to LSU puts them at 86 a Q2 game
v Arkansas (H) - RD1 Win + RD2 Loss to UF puts them at 32 a Q2 game
Alabama games that can move to Q1 with just 1 win
-v UF - Win v Arky, L to TN
-v OU - Some scenario of winning for a change
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:16 pm to GenesChin
Yeah that’s another dagger in the pro Avery argument: our Quadrant 1 wins. Several of those wins are teetering on falling to Q2 and aren’t as impressive as we made them out to be. Did we catch a few teams at a good time when they were a little overrated? The schedule was tough but it’s not as tough as it was in Nov.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:20 pm to phil4bama
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The schedule was tough but it’s not as tough as it was in Nov.
We are #5 in SOS per RPI metrics and #15 in SOS per KenPom metrics. Our schedule was very tough, top to bottom. We had 1, maybe 2 games that were total show up and it's in the bag games (AAMU).
That isn't an excuse for this season, but our overall schedule strength isn't really up for debate.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Mercer and La Tech should have been show up and the game's in the bag type of games too.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:25 pm to GenesChin
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While beating TAMU potentially gives you another Q1 win** (wlil be close)
Its a top 50 neutral site game. Its a Q1 game.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:29 pm to mistaken4193
Yeah we all expected more but let's not start picking apart our schedule, that's a lame argument. It was one of the toughest in the country. The committee values tough scheduling and rewards it enough wins are there.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:45 pm to Bamainva40
The fact that we still have a "win 1 game" opportunity at this junction of the season just reiterates why, in almost all situations outside of a demoralized program just needing confidence, it always pays to play a well rounded, tough schedule (and helps to have a well rounded league).
If we substitute BYU, Lipscomb and UTA for Texas State, Gardner-Webb, Stetson we are not in the conversation right now.
Playing in solid tournaments, programs that are always in the Top 3-4 in their mid-major league and 2-3 big OOC games is IMHO the perfect scheduling setup.
If we substitute BYU, Lipscomb and UTA for Texas State, Gardner-Webb, Stetson we are not in the conversation right now.
Playing in solid tournaments, programs that are always in the Top 3-4 in their mid-major league and 2-3 big OOC games is IMHO the perfect scheduling setup.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:48 pm to FairhopeTider
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BTW, call me a curmudgeon but I will not give Avery credit for making the dance if it's just an appearance in Dayton.
That's like getting credit for becoming bowl eligible when you have 5 wins and the NCAA gives you a waiver to play in a bowl game.
I can understand the arguments for keeping Avery past this year even if I do not agree with them.
However, I do not understand how anyone can down vote the above quote.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:59 pm to Bama323_15
Dude, its tRant.
People would down-vote pictures of a newborn baby.
People would down-vote pictures of a newborn baby.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:27 pm to TiderNAL
So, Wimp went with the team to Florida and we played one of our best games of the year.
Wimps teams almost always played well in the SEC tourney.
Can Wimp travel with the team this week and maybe even sit on the sideline?
Wimps teams almost always played well in the SEC tourney.
Can Wimp travel with the team this week and maybe even sit on the sideline?
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:28 pm to ArabianKnight
Wimp's call on wjox is the only positive to come out of this season
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:30 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Herb Jones a game time decision Thursday.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:51 pm to Gary Busey
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Herb Jones a game time decision Thursday
Somewhere there's a joke about hitting all of our players in the head to see if it knocks any sense into them.....
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:53 pm to ArabianKnight
I will tell you this much - if we start turning the ball over and have no offensive flow, King Cullman better get some run.
He's not perfect but he without a doubt adds some spark to the offense.
He's not perfect but he without a doubt adds some spark to the offense.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
At this point, what does it hurt? He should have let him play more in the previous games.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:15 pm to Cobrasize
Lawson is better than Avery Jr......but we know why he doesn’t get any of Junior’s minutes smh
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:20 pm to mistaken4193
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Its a top 50 neutral site game. Its a Q1 game.
Good call. I messed up getting confused w/ the other TAMU game but I edited it
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#15 in SOS per KenPom metrics....
That isn't an excuse for this season, but our overall schedule strength isn't really up for debate.
They are #6 in the SEC in SOC according to KenPom.
Bama's KenPom SOS is built on having played in the SEC and not due to the OOC scheduling
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:24 pm to Bamafan15
Avery Jr is in here down voting everything positive about Lawson. It's ok Lil Avery, you're getting a free education for sucking. Most folks only get 50 bucks and a bad taste in their mouth.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:26 pm to GenesChin
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Bama's KenPom SOS is built on being part of the SEC as they are #84 in Non Conf SOS.
That's pretty misleading, considering that a large chunk of the Top 50 are SWAC/MEAC/ASun type teams that play 10 money games.
Alabama had the 14th toughest OOC schedule of teams in the ACC/American/B-East/B10/B12/P12/SEC.
Of the Non-Mid Majors
9. Temple
16. North Carolina
19. Tennessee
37. Connecticut
40. Kentucky
44. Texas A&M
47. Duke
53. Florida
66. Stanford
70. Villanova
77. UCLA
78. Kansas
83. Gonzaga
84. Alabama
87. Arizona
96. Oklahoma
105. Wichita State
107. Texas
113. Southern Cal
117. Arizona State
133. Missouri
136. Arkansas
139. South Carolina
146. Georgia
147. Purdue
148. Ole Miss
151. Seton Hall
157. Wisconsin
161. Virginia
163. Colorado
164. Washington
169. Marquette
171. Syracuse
177. TCU
184. Utah
193. Providence
195. Notre Dame
199. Wake Forest
203. Auburn
204. Northwestern
206. Washington State
217. Clemson
232. Indiana
240. Cal
244. Houston
256. LSU
257. Iowa State
260. Illinois
269. Nebraska
277. Pittsburgh
282. Baylor
283. Miami
286. Creighton
292. SMU
293. DePaul
295. Iowa
296. Cincinnati
297. West Virginia
299. Maryland
300. Michigan
304. Michigan State
306. Minnesota
307. Oklahoma State
309. Texas Tech
316. Georgia Tech
318. Oregon
320. Memphis
321. Kansas State
322. Tulane
324. Penn State
332. Florida State
336. Oregon State
343. Virginia Tech
344. NC State
345. Mississippi State
347. South Florida
348. Rutgers
349. East Carolina
351. Georgetown
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 3:33 pm
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