re: Worst administrative decision from your university in regards to athletics?

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Hall wasn't the bagman. You would not even recognize the name of the person who handled these issues. That is why AU wasn't worried when TB started running his mouth about Wayne Hall. They knew he had nothing.

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Again, you're full of shite. The following is an excerpt from Bowden's testimony:

" Bowden alleged that the “pay-for-play” system was orchestrated by powerful AU Board of Trustees member Bobby Lowder and carried out by former assistant coach Wayne Hall."

Also, Bowden had the following statement to reporters:

"When Terry Bowden was hired in 1993 to coach Auburn, he was a bright and audacious young (mid-30s) coach eager to make his legendary father proud and make a name for himself.

Everything changed within his first week. An assistant coach from the previous staff, whom Bowden was told he had to retain, walked into his office and placed a black ledger on his desk. It was a list of players who were being paid.

This is how we do it around here, Bowden was told.

Bowden told the assistant coach, “Pay off the players that were promised and never do it again.”

What else you got,Junior?

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Again, you're full of shite. The following is an excerpt from Bowden's testimony: " Bowden alleged that the “pay-for-play” system was orchestrated by powerful AU Board of Trustees member Bobby Lowder and carried out by former assistant coach Wayne Hall." Also, Bowden had the following statement to reporters: "When Terry Bowden was hired in 1993 to coach Auburn, he was a bright and audacious young (mid-30s) coach eager to make his legendary father proud and make a name for himself. Everything changed within his first week. An assistant coach from the previous staff, whom Bowden was told he had to retain, walked into his office and placed a black ledger on his desk. It was a list of players who were being paid. This is how we do it around here, Bowden was told. Bowden told the assistant coach, “Pay off the players that were promised and never do it again.” What else you got,Junior?

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Again, you are quoting Terry Bowden. Which proves you are a dumbass. I know quit a bit of the System at place at AU at that time. It was not orchestrated by Bobby Lowder and the players did not go to Wayne Hall for money (they had other sources). Bowden brought those two names in because they both had exposed him for being a POS. You ever wonder why it took so long for Bowden to find another job?

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Again, you are quoting Terry Bowden. Which proves you are a dumbass. I know quit a bit of the System at place at AU at that time. It was not orchestrated by Bobby Lowder and the players did not go to Wayne Hall for money (they had other sources). Bowden brought those two names in because they both had exposed him for being a POS. You ever wonder why it took so long for Bowden to find another job?

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Was it Rane or someone in the legislature?

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Was it Rane or someone in the legislature?

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Nobody you would have ever heard about. Again, that is how the system had always been. The NCAA turned a blind eye to this issue (unless it involved recruiting), because they knew it was widespread and nearly impossible to prove. It was thought to be the moral thing from a coaches standpoint, because they saw a lot of their players doing without because of NCAA rules.

Doolander, hands down....

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What happened when LSU hired Alabama's softball coach and he quit three days later and went back to Alabama?

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LSU hires Murphy away from Bama: ALLEVA IS A GENIUS

Murphy takes one look and heads back: ALLEVA IS AN IDIOT

LSU hires an up and comer while Bama wins a natty: ALLEVA GOT PLAYED

LSU surpasses Bama as Murphy gets complacent: ALLEVA PLAYING 4D CHESS

-we are here

If that story is true, then it was Wayne Hall, because he was the only one of Dye's assistants retained by Bowden.

But it's a bit of a stretch to call it 'testimony'. Seeing as how the only legal documents Bowden ever signed regarding the allegations were NCAA compliance forms that reported no violations during the years he coached there, and an affidavit with AU claiming he witnessed no improprieties as contingent with his contract settlement.

Of course, that isn't to say that AU wasn't paying players, or that Bowden personally put a stop to it. But it is rather interesting that, in the 25 years since, no former AU players whose names appeared in that ledger have come forward to verify Bowden's story.

ETA: Now that I think about it, that information would have probably caused the NCAA to give AU the death penalty had it come out in the 1998-99 timeframe, right after Bowden resigned (and in the middle of the legal mess with Brother Oliver). Seems like one of the literally dozens of AU players receiving payoffs while AU was under investigation for the Ramsey allegations would have been persuaded to 'fess up under the circumstances.

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No dumbass, I am trying to explain to you they did not need to fire Dye ( OP question).They did not have anything on him, but the Administration was made up with a bunch of pussies. Your reading comprehension is similar to a North Korean.

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I'll just leave that one little sentence out there, and let folks decide for themselves whether you're full of shite, or not.

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Again, you're full of shite. The following is an excerpt from Bowden's testimony: " Bowden alleged that the “pay-for-play” system was orchestrated by powerful AU Board of Trustees member Bobby Lowder and carried out by former assistant coach Wayne Hall." Also, Bowden had the following statement to reporters: "When Terry Bowden was hired in 1993 to coach Auburn, he was a bright and audacious young (mid-30s) coach eager to make his legendary father proud and make a name for himself. Everything changed within his first week. An assistant coach from the previous staff, whom Bowden was told he had to retain, walked into his office and placed a black ledger on his desk. It was a list of players who were being paid. This is how we do it around here, Bowden was told. Bowden told the assistant coach, “Pay off the players that were promised and never do it again.” What else you got,Junior?


Again, you are quoting Terry Bowden. Which proves you are a dumbass. I know quit a bit of the System at place at AU at that time. It was not orchestrated by Bobby Lowder and the players did not go to Wayne Hall for money (they had other sources). Bowden brought those two names in because they both had exposed him for being a POS. You ever wonder why it took so long for Bowden to find another job?

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You're either the stupidest bastard that's visits this board, or you just can't psychologically come to terms with the truth. You're actually saying that a guy who was the head coach at Auburn for years was in the dark about the goings on around the football program, and Bobby Lowder wasn't pulling the strings. Either way, it's not worth debating with you over any more.
By the way, you ever wonder why Dye NEVER found another coaching job?

What a dumb frick. Dye didnt get another job because he did pursue just any job. Did Stallings get another job? You are the only dumbass on this board who can not understand what I have been saying. Please tell me you are just playing stupid.