re: Worst administrative decision from your university in regards to athletics?

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I think hiring bill curry when Bobby Bowden was begging for the job is worse.

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Absolutely. That's the #1 worst decision. While I think Bowden benefitted from being at the right place at the right time at FSU, he would've had a lot of success at Alabama.

I wasn't to torn up about Stallings leaving in 96. He shouldn't have gotten run off but we were way behind Tennessee & Florida at the time. He was a very good coach for the time but he wasn't doing much to actually advance the program. We would've eventually fallen further behind even though it would've been better to keep him around instead of hiring DuBose.

Hiring DuBose was amazingly stupid and short sighted. Nothing about him proved he was ready for the job.

Or the hiring of Bill Curry.

Giving R.C. Slocum a 7-year guaranteed contract after the 1998 season (he was fired after the 4th year of that contract)

Giving Dennis Franchione a 6-year guaranteed contract after the 2004 season, a season in which A&M lost to Baylor for the first time in 20 years (he "resigned" after year 3 of that contract)

Giving Mike Sherman a 7-year guaranteed contract before he coached a single game because he coached the son of the system chancellor (he was fired after year 4 of that contract)

Giving Kevin Sumlin a 6-year guaranteed contract after the 2013 season (he is currently in year 4 of that contract)

Giving Billy Kennedy a 4-year guaranteed deal WITHOUT A BUYOUT CLAUSE after 1 NCAA Tournament appearance in 5 years (now 1 appearance in 6 years)

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Actually it was his wife. Eric was a good guy and well liked by the players and coaches. His wife had previously sued Wal-Mart for discrimination and used Donald Watkins as her attorney. Watkins was the attorney for Birmingham Mayor Arrington, who Dye pissed off by moving the Iron Bowl to Auburn in 89. Watkins did not do it to get back at Auburn, he did it to screw Dye. The AU coaches also tried to talk Eric out of marrying his wife, she was well know around the Athletic Dept. He did not listen and she found out about it.

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Did Ramsey ever get any money out of Auburn? I just never could figure out what he stood to gain for doing what he did. He got Coach Dye fired and the program on probation, but just never understood why he would do that.

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quote:Actually it was his wife. Eric was a good guy and well liked by the players and coaches. His wife had previously sued Wal-Mart for discrimination and used Donald Watkins as her attorney. Watkins was the attorney for Birmingham Mayor Arrington, who Dye pissed off by moving the Iron Bowl to Auburn in 89. Watkins did not do it to get back at Auburn, he did it to screw Dye. The AU coaches also tried to talk Eric out of marrying his wife, she was well know around the Athletic Dept. He did not listen and she found out about it. Did Ramsey ever get any money out of Auburn? I just never could figure out what he stood to gain for doing what he did. He got Coach Dye fired and the program on probation, but just never understood why he would do that.

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That wasn't the intent of Watkins, he wanted to screw Dye. Ramsey's wife wanted to extort money from Auburn, but I think Watkins had other plans. Eric was the real loser in the issue. He got a divorce a few years later (a positive move on his part), but eventually got his degree from AU. I think he lives in D.C or Atlanta now, but he doesn't participate in the support network that a lot of former players get to enjoy later in life.

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Again, you show your Bama ignorance. Bama got hammered because it was a recruiting violation. Auburn got slapped because it was made public. Schools did not write down payments to players. The HC was never implicated in the system, it was always assist coaches or staffers who were the go to guys. The NCAA turned a blind eye to it for years and it was at every school.

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Since when did this involve Alabama?..nice deflection.
Are you seriously insinuating that Dye had no knowledge of any of the cheating?..the payments?...the racial problems?
So you're saying that it was ok because "everyone else was doing it", but you hammer Alabama every chance you get?
Read this again, and let it sink in:

"Eric Ramsey was a defensive back for Auburn University's football team in the early 1990s who used a tape recorder to secretly record conversations between his football coaches and Booster "Corky" Frost regarding an illicit player payment scheme. Ramsey's allegations also included racist practices at Auburn, including disapproval of inter-racial dating in the community and segregation of black and white players in the resident athletic dorm. After his tapes were revealed, Auburn received strict penalties and probation for the sixth time in the school's history. This scandal prompted Coach Pat Dye's resignation and preceded the hiring of Samford University football coach Terry Bowden."

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Hell, coach Wayne Hall was the damn BAGMAN who went around paying out the money from the slush fund established by the select elite Auburn boosters (I know Wayne so don't try to tell me shite).

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I'm sure Coach Hall has told you nothing like that went on while he was at the Capstone.

The most overlooked part of the whole Dye saga in this thread - the dude was dying of liver damage due to hemochromatosis, exacerbated by years of hard drinking. He wasn't expected to live to see the 1993 season, much less coach. His recovery was a medical miracle.

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Hell, coach Wayne Hall was the damn BAGMAN who went around paying out the money from the slush fund established by the select elite Auburn boosters (I know Wayne so don't try to tell me shite).
I'm sure Coach Hall has told you nothing like that went on while he was at the Capstone.

The most overlooked part of the whole Dye saga in this thread - the dude was dying of liver damage due to hemochromatosis, exacerbated by years of hard drinking. He wasn't expected to live to see the 1993 season, much less coach. His recovery was a medical miracle.

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Quite the contrary. Wayne's reputation wasn't one of a person that could be readily trusted. Hell, Wayne was a rogue back then, and he'll tell you that.

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Since when did this involve Alabama?..nice deflection. Are you seriously insinuating that Dye had no knowledge of any of the cheating?..the payments?...the racial problems? So you're saying that it was ok because "everyone else was doing it", but you hammer Alabama every chance you get? Read this again, and let it sink in:


No, I was insinuating that the System was set up to where Dye was not culpable of any wrongdoings. That is how it was set up at all the SEC Schools back then. It was a system that was established by Bryant Era Coaches, but not perfected by their successors (i.e Dubose).

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So it was OK for Dye to do it because Alabama (Coach Bryant) had made it ok. Your posts sound like shite that comes out of North Korea....fairy tales.