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re: New Bama BB Coach
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:31 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:31 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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Congrats on finishing in the Top 64.
We are not UK and don't claim to be. I would be very happy with a basketball program that consistently made the tournament and occasionally went deep. So would every team in the SEC besides UK.
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:35 pm to diddydirtyAubie
quote:It's actually closer to top 40.
Congrats on finishing in the Top 64.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:37 pm to Monticello
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There are a lot of better basketball programs than Alabama who can't pay their coaches nearly as much as we can. Alabama basketball can succeed for the same reasons football schools like Texas and Florida have good basketball programs. Our excess football money can fund basketball.
Look at the program, not much different than AUs. When coaches leave, their careers are usually moved back 10-15 years. Not worth the risk for some good Coaches.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:40 pm to Monticello
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Alabama's roster is full of 4 star talent right now. They are just horribly coached. Gottfried had us stacked with 4 and 5 star players. Recruiting is not an issue at Alabama.
I agree that Alabama has a lot of 4 star players and Gottfried actually had a lot more than Grant.
However, I still think recruiting is the problem with Grant (unlike Gottfried who built well-rounded rosters).
If you watch college basketball in general, a vast majority of "better" teams are a lot worse "coached" in fundamentals across the board than Grant's.
The problem with Grant's teams have been almost absurdly specific: the lack of a power forward who's a tough rebounder and also offers a consistent offensive threat in the paint.
Ironic since that type player was Alabama's calling card for 3 decades.
If you add that one player to any of his teams those teams are at least mid-tier NCAA seeds totally capable of Sweet 16 / Elite 8 runs. Offensive coaching looks a lot better when you have player that can consistently produce in the paint.
Under Grant, Alabama has had plenty of talent but it's been almost all perimeter players, Hale/Kessens types that aren't tough in the paint.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:41 pm to Irons Puppet
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When coaches leave, their careers are usually moved back 10-15 years
Mark Gottfried was out of the game for one year then got a good basketball job and promptly went to the NCAA tourney 3 consecutive years.
There are a million things you could flame Bama about, but being able to attract and pay for a good basketball coach isn't one of them.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:44 pm to bamasgot13
quote:Yeah, who are these coaches that were derailed? Hobbs? He was an assistant at UA, was promoted to HC, fired, then was hired as an assistant at UK.
Mark Gottfried was out of the game for one year then got a good basketball job and promptly went to the NCAA tourney 3 consecutive years.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:50 pm to bamasgot13
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Mark Gottfried was out of the game for one year then got a good basketball job and promptly went to the NCAA tourney 3 consecutive years.
There are a million things you could flame Bama about, but being able to attract and pay for a good basketball coach isn't one of them.
NCS recognized that MG was a better coach than Bama wanted to accept. I remember how the Finebaums of the World wanted to run him out of town, and a lot of fans typically followed suit. Bama will continue to be a SEC Graveyard until they make a commitment to Basketball, might happen with this hire.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:51 pm to diddydirtyAubie
Auburn fans talking about winning basketball. 
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:53 pm to Irons Puppet
We made a commitment with the last hire, dumbass.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:55 pm to Irons Puppet
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Look at the program, not much different than AUs.
I would generally agree. And look at who Auburn was able to hire.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:02 pm to pvilleguru
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We made a commitment with the last hire
agree. Made Grant the 14th highest paid coach in the country at the time of his hire.
Forbes calls him one of college basketball's most overpaid coaches:
Grant overpaid
No one is going "cheap" on the Alabama basketball program.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:03 pm to pvilleguru
quote:This thread is rich. Last I checked, this terrible Bama team was still ahead of Auburn and beat them, and they're lecturing on "commitment". Meanwhile, Bama athletics is 33 mil in the black and they are down 14. War Eagle!
We made a commitment with the last hire, dumbass.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:04 pm to Monticello
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Look at the program, not much different than AUs.
I would generally agree. And look at who Auburn was able to hire.
As an AU Fan, I would not fool myself into thinking that could have happened under normal circumstances. AU even invested big dollars into Basketball, and the chances of getting a Pearl type hire was minimal.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:06 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Luckily, he was out of work.
and the chances of getting a Pearl type hire was minimal.
And Bama's program has much more of a winning tradition than AU. Hell, Tennessee got Pearl in his prime.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:07 pm to bamasgot13
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Made Grant the 14th highest paid coach in the country at the time of his hire.
Just because their is $$ in front of a name, doesn't mean a person will live up to it. Too many programs throw money at coaches and think they will live up to it. AU has done it too many time with Football.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:13 pm to JuiceTerry
the teams will likely be tied in sec standings after tomorrow. that is nothing for a bammer to brag about considering pearl in his first year and this will likely be his worst team. you clowns arent finding a better coach than pearl. i will bet anything you want on that
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:16 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:So Auburn wasn't making a commitment to football those years?
Just because their is $$ in front of a name, doesn't mean a person will live up to it. Too many programs throw money at coaches and think they will live up to it. AU has done it too many time with Football.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:19 pm to pvilleguru
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So Auburn wasn't making a commitment to football those years?
Bad decisions trumped good intentions.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:22 pm to Irons Puppet
Bad decisions does not equal not showing a commitment. Just because it hasn't worked out with Grant, it does not mean that we aren't showing a commitment. To say otherwise is asinine. Hell, even Gottfried was making more than Shula was at one point.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:23 pm to Irons Puppet
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Just because their is $$ in front of a name, doesn't mean a person will live up to it.
No shite. Just because Pearl won at a solid basketball program like UT while cheating does not mean he will win at a shitty basketball school like AU with the NCAA breathing down his back. Guaranteed hires are almost non-existent, but at least Alabama has the money to pay the coach we identify as having the best odds of winning.
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