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re: New Bama BB Coach
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:59 pm to auburnphan23
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:59 pm to auburnphan23
quote:Because of Kentucky and Florida?
if bama is so awesome, how come they have only have 1 sec chamionship since wimp
quote:We were using the same model for picking coaches as we were for football.
and every single coach since him has been mediocre at best?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:00 pm to RTR America
bama has only made the ncaa tournament 8 times in 23 years since wimp. this means they have been left out two thirds of the time post wimp. only made it past the first round 4 or 5 times which is less than 20 percent of the time
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:12 pm to auburnphan23
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bama has only made the ncaa tournament 8 times in 23 years since wimp. this means they have been left out two thirds of the time post wimp. only made it past the first round 4 or 5 times which is less than 20 percent of the time
That places Bama fifth in appearance among SECteams since Wimp left. AU has three appearances in the same span.
Gottfried made it 50% of the time, even Hobbs made it 2/6 times. Grant has brought down all the numbers
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:12 pm to PrettyLights
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If you dont think Bama has the resources to hire a solid basketball coach and build a new coliseum you're delusional.
Sure as hell have not done it in modern times. Bandaid fixes on both ends.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:16 pm to Irons Puppet
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Sure as hell have not done it in modern times. Bandaid fixes on both ends.
Grant was a top ten paid coach when he was hired. Do you consider 2009 modern times?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:19 pm to Crimson Legend
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Are you trying to compare Bama BB to Duke or Ky ?
How dense.
He was using the comparison to show that if the most successful college basketball programs in the country don't play in expensive facilities, then it is not an excuse for us.
You can not use facilities at KY and the Dukes of the World to show how you can win with average facilities. Other successful programs have the advantages of geography or coaching, Bama does not have either. As long as they ignore Coleman's issues and hire "up and comers", they will continue to struggle. To thinks otherwise is pretty dense.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:20 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Wut?
Bandaid fixes on both ends.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:21 pm to Irons Puppet
What exactly are Coleman's issues?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:21 pm to bona fide
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Grant was a top ten paid coach when he was hired. Do you consider 2009 modern times?
Was he the best coach available at the time of his hire ? You all thinks if you pay someone top ten money, they will live up to that salary. Hiring the "next great Coach" is a big risk.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:23 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Yes. Everyone called it a great hire.
Was he the best coach available at the time of his hire ?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:23 pm to pvilleguru
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What exactly are Coleman's issues?
It has become the Fulton County Stadium of College Basketball. The seating and lighting make it a very dull place to watch a game. The home court advantage is not there.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:24 pm to pvilleguru
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Yes. Everyone called it a great hire.
Because he was considered an up an coming Coach. They work out less than half the time.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:25 pm to Irons Puppet
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Sure as hell have not done it in modern times. Bandaid fixes on both ends.
Our athletic department ran a 33 million surplus this year. We have the money to pay a basketball coach 3-4 million a year if he is worth it.
Florida's basketball arena is nothing special at all. But they win at an elite level because they found a great coach and payed him enough to stay.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:30 pm to Irons Puppet
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It has become the Fulton County Stadium of College Basketball. The seating and lighting make it a very dull place to watch a game. The home court advantage is not there.
Recruits don't care about the seating and lighting. That's a fan issue and we still pack out Coleman when we are winning.
As for home court advantage, look at out home record the last 10-15 years. Alabama's problems have been on the road, not at home.
When are you going to be able to understand that basketball recruits are not obsessed with facilities like they are in football? They flock to winning programs and great coaches, not facilities. Talent and facilities are not the problem at Bama and they have never been a problem.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:31 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:No amount of money was going to bring in Izzo, Cal, or K. When you eliminate the guys that weren't available, Grant was in everyone's top 3.
Because he was considered an up an coming Coach. They work out less than half the time.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:31 pm to Monticello
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Our athletic department ran a 33 million surplus this year. We have the money to pay a basketball coach 3-4 million a year if he is worth it.
Florida's basketball arena is nothing special at all. But they win at an elite level because they found a great coach and payed him enough to stay.
And theY can recruit their home state for great players. Something the state of Alabama can not produce for the State Teams. When they do, they end up at KY.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:32 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:I've never been to an arena and thought, "Wow, the lighting in this place really adds something."
The seating and lighting make it a very dull place to watch a game.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:35 pm to Irons Puppet
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And theY can recruit their home state for great players. Something the state of Alabama can not produce for the State Teams. When they do, they end up at KY.
Alabama's roster is full of 4 star talent right now. They are just horribly coached. Gottfried had us stacked with 4 and 5 star players. Recruiting is not an issue at Alabama. The southeast is loaded with stud recruits. We recruit far better than a ton of consistent tournament teams like Gonzaga, Iowa St, Butler, VCU, Xavier, etc.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:36 pm to Monticello
quote:Yeah. I want a new arena, but that's just for my comfort. The amount of time the players actually spend in Coleman is extremely small. Most of their time is spent in the practice facility, which is one of the biggest and best in the nation. We just built that in the last few years. When we're winning, Coleman gets loud as frick.
When are you going to be able to understand that basketball recruits are not obsessed with facilities like they are in football? They flock to winning programs and great coaches, not facilities. Talent and facilities are not the problem at Bama and they have never been a problem.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:37 pm to Monticello
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Recruits don't care about the seating and lighting. That's a fan issue and we still pack out Coleman when we are winning.
As for home court advantage, look at out home record the last 10-15 years. Alabama's problems have been on the road, not at home.
When are you going to be able to understand that basketball recruits are not obsessed with facilities like they are in football? They flock to winning programs and great coaches, not facilities. Talent and facilities are not the problem at Bama and they have never been a problem.
Coaches care. Coaches like Shaka Smart or proven coaches know that you have to have the infrastructure of a program to make it successful. This include Arena's, practice facilies and Student participation.
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