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re: Ivan Maisel hits the nail on the head.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:05 am to Irons Puppet
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:05 am to Irons Puppet
I do not want to watch a game where the ref stands over the ball between every play while teams substitute and align correctly. Maisel says he wants to watch strategy well party of the strategy for coaches right now is being able to adjust personal and formation within the allotted time frame.
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:12 am to DaBama
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So you were comparing your team's strategy to the Taliban's? They are some pretty underhanded bastards, you know?
Well, TBH, its win anyway you can in war. There is no honor in lining up like we did back in the revolutionary war. Bullet sponges they were.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:21 am to AUtigR24
What the HUNH has done to Alabama, is cut the strings away from Smart and Saban. The only way they will adjust is to have a player on the field that can call plays quickly. Sabans defense has been built on match ups and disguising schemes, he can not do either one with the HUNH and it frustrates him.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:45 am to Irons Puppet
No it doesn't , not when you run to the line to keep from subbing. , your QB ain't making the read you coach is taking 30 secs to look at the defense and make the call with que cards
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:47 am to AUtigR24
I don't want that either, all I'm saying is once you get to line make the rad and go. If your snapping the ball every 15 secs. That's fine with me. Go as fast as you can, but font have your line run to the ball to wait the entire play clock whil your coaches figure out what cue card to use
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:52 am to Irons Puppet
That's all fine and dandy if you QB is making the calls too.
But having Gus, Freeze, Sumlin.. Whoever making the call against a jr linebacker , and having the whole play click to go without the ability to do anything in the scheme you need , because the offense may snap it...,
In other words it's on for the I to be puppets on strings but not the D
But having Gus, Freeze, Sumlin.. Whoever making the call against a jr linebacker , and having the whole play click to go without the ability to do anything in the scheme you need , because the offense may snap it...,
In other words it's on for the I to be puppets on strings but not the D
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:08 am to 3rddownonthe8
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I don't want that either, all I'm saying is once you get to line make the rad and go. If your snapping the ball every 15 secs. That's fine with me. Go as fast as you can, but font have your line run to the ball to wait the entire play clock whil your coaches figure out what cue card to use
Frustrating isn't it.
I understand where you're coming from. I'm 63 years old and lived in Houston when the Oilers got their franchise. I grew up loving power football. My favorite players were guys like Charlie Tovar, Billy Cannon, Dave Smith, Hoyle Granger, and of course Earl Cambell.
Times change…When Mike Leach was at Texas Tech, beating A&M 2 out of every 3 years, I hated the Spread or Air Raid or whatever he called it there. It wasn't REAL football. Of course my attitude was colored by the fact that we couldn't stop it….and we had been beating the likes of Tech for years.
Its called evolution. The game goes through cycles. Teams using the HUNH and playing within the rules to sway the advantage to their side. You want to play certain personnel groups on defense based on down, distance and perceived tendencies to your advantage? Fine, I'll do what I can to prevent it…to create mismatches that I can take advantage of.
The idea is to score more points than the other team, duh. Where you have a problem is that someone has figured out a way to score a whole lot more points. You need to change to keep up offensively or change your defense to stop the HUNH.
Rather than be creative and evolve, your solution is to change the rules to your advantage. That's pretty weak. What's next? Are you gonna take your ball and go home?
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:47 am to Whens lunch
So you think it's exciting, watching back up players throw up cue cards for 30 secs or more and everyone just stands around.
Listen , I'm confident that defenses will catch up and then your coaches will be looking for some kind of rule change.
However, it is pretty noticeable that only 1 team has won a title using this system. And that team AU was playing Oregon , he'll the HUNH has only been in 2 title games at all.
I personal like the speed, just wish the spread QBs were smart enough to call their own plays and not have to see and say cards.
Listen , I'm confident that defenses will catch up and then your coaches will be looking for some kind of rule change.
However, it is pretty noticeable that only 1 team has won a title using this system. And that team AU was playing Oregon , he'll the HUNH has only been in 2 title games at all.
I personal like the speed, just wish the spread QBs were smart enough to call their own plays and not have to see and say cards.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:51 am to 3rddownonthe8
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No it doesn't , not when you run to the line to keep from subbing. , your QB ain't making the read you coach is taking 30 secs to look at the defense and make the call with que cards
BS, most HUNH teams do not milk the clock. You do not run 80-90 plays a game by waiting for the playclock to run down.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:59 am to cardboardboxer
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So is conditioning and efficient signaling.
Amen. Football was conceived as a contest between real athletes that played both ways.
These lard-arse "specialists" need to adapt or die.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 10:06 am to Mizz-SEC
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Amen. Football was conceived as a contest between real athletes that played both ways.
These lard-arse "specialists" need to adapt or die.
It is the coaches that need to adapt. Control freaks like Saban can not stand the fact that he can not act as the puppetmaster for his defense. He hate the fact that he can not play "Electric Football" anymore.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 10:20 am to Irons Puppet
Some of you HUNH fans need to calm down and take off your team colored glasses. Neither Malzahn, Sumlin, Freeze, or Pinkel are in any way the second coming of Lombardi or Don Shula, hell besides Gus has any one of them ever won a conference?
Posted on 6/7/14 at 10:26 am to APimpNamedNamath
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Some of you HUNH fans need to calm down and take off your team colored glasses. Neither Malzahn, Sumlin, Freeze, or Pinkel are in any way the second coming of Lombardi or Don Shula, hell besides Gus has any one of them ever won a conference?
Have not seen anyone make that claim. What I am saying the HUNH does is play the best 11 vs 11. The Saban defenders are saying it is unfair and not how football was designed to be played. It is just the opposite, it is how football was played up unitl the mid 60s.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 10:55 am to Irons Puppet
As long as the officiating crew is ready to call the game I don't see an issue.
Like I said earlier, teams rushing the refs to try and go at THEIR pace which may be faster than they can call the game is not something I'm okay with. You want to tell me that these mostly out-of-shape, middle aged dudes can somehow get in position and get ready faster than D1 athletes?
GTFO with that crap lol
Like I said earlier, teams rushing the refs to try and go at THEIR pace which may be faster than they can call the game is not something I'm okay with. You want to tell me that these mostly out-of-shape, middle aged dudes can somehow get in position and get ready faster than D1 athletes?
GTFO with that crap lol
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:00 am to nb200016
What day melt is this? Christ Almighty guys move on. Auburn was the better team in the iron bowl.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:03 am to Tiguar
And FSU was the better team in the championship
People can't have discussions about something in the past?
People can't have discussions about something in the past?
Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:17 am to nb200016
There was a rule change a few years back that worked to the HUNH teams' advantage. Let them run their high school offense. It's legal.
All I ask is the officials do not speed up to accommodate them. They only run a few plays out of several formations, defenses will adjust. Let Gus,for instance,get his O in Meercat formation, then as the cue cards come out,change defenses. Or have your D mirror the Meercat,then set as they do.
All I ask is the officials do not speed up to accommodate them. They only run a few plays out of several formations, defenses will adjust. Let Gus,for instance,get his O in Meercat formation, then as the cue cards come out,change defenses. Or have your D mirror the Meercat,then set as they do.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:24 pm to Irons Puppet
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Control freaks like Saban can not stand the fact that he can not act as the puppetmaster
This is funny cause that exactly what Gus does, and has done. That's why he has those cards. Gus controls every aspect until the snap.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:25 pm to APimpNamedNamath
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Some of you HUNH fans
I think you mean "all college football fans except Arkansas and Alabama"
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:18 pm to Irons Puppet
And as I have said ad nauseum, I have no issue going as gags as possible, hell snap it as soon as it's spotted as far as I care , I love that. My only , issue is when the teams run to the line just to prohibit dubbing? And then proceed to stand up and take almost the entire play clock to get their play set and go, if the o is going go take their sweet time the Def should be able to sub.
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