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re: Ivan Maisel hits the nail on the head.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 7:48 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 6/6/14 at 7:48 pm to Irons Puppet
But what I said still applies. You got a holding call that saved the game for you when Yeldon made a hell of a run inside the 10. But check out that first round draft pick left tackle of yours real close on the pass play that tied the game. Look real close.
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 7:54 pm to DaleDenton
OH BULL SHITE.
Watch the Auburn vs TAMU game last year. A&M ran up tempo with a Heisman QB at the helm and an all american at wide out. We effectively rotated TEN defensive linemen within the scope of the no huddle timing.
Times they are a changing. These coaches need to get with the program or Gus bus gon run over em.
Watch the Auburn vs TAMU game last year. A&M ran up tempo with a Heisman QB at the helm and an all american at wide out. We effectively rotated TEN defensive linemen within the scope of the no huddle timing.
Times they are a changing. These coaches need to get with the program or Gus bus gon run over em.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 7:54 pm to antibarner
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But what I said still applies. You got a holding call that saved the game for you when Yeldon made a hell of a run inside the 10. But check out that first round draft pick left tackle of yours real close on the pass play that tied the game. Look real close.
I watched the game the other night. That holding call was so obvious and the reason Yeldon was able to make that run. Again, bama's D was worn out at the end of the game, why do you think Saban tried a 57 yard FG.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 7:57 pm to Irons Puppet
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bama's D was worn out at the end of the game, why do you think Saban tried a 57 yard FG.
Pretty simple. Nick wanted no part of giving Auburns offense the ball at the 25 yard line. We had an assassin for a kicker (NC game excepted.) and had moved the ball at will late in the game. Nick wanted to end it there.
Normally Sabans decision is both safe and practical. You have "nothing to loose" in trying. If you make it...you win. ordinarily if you miss, its a tackle or a touchback.
But Nicky didnt figure on Chris Davis.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 8:00 pm to Pavoloco83
Loose you say.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 8:07 pm to nc14
Greg Robinson got away with a takedown on the TD that tied the game. He got beaten inside and got away with a blatant hold.
Fot that matter,watch Robinson on the game winner vs UGA..he had the guy in a choke hold from behind.
Fot that matter,watch Robinson on the game winner vs UGA..he had the guy in a choke hold from behind.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 8:45 pm to antibarner
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Greg Robinson got away with a takedown on the TD that tied the game. He got beaten inside and got away with a blatant hold.
Fot that matter,watch Robinson on the game winner vs UGA..he had the guy in a choke hold from behind.
I have never seen Bama fans breakdown tape, play by play, for any other loss in their history. They so quick to point out penalties and missed calls. First it was OL downfield and now holding. TheY fail to look at the other side of the LOS. I knew the loss stung, but not to this level.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 8:48 pm to Monticello
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Maisel's argument is my only argument with regards to the HUNH. It's not a player safety debate. It's a debate for whether college football should be a strategic chess match or so fast that it is a continuous game almost like basketball or soccer.
. . . or arena football.
By the way, I feel the same way as you.
It was not too long ago that we all ragged on the Big 12 for what they were doing - all offense and no D.
HUNH fans will tell you that once they have the talent on D, that it will get better. But, when has this actually happened at any school that runs the HUNH? Auburn had plenty of talent last year on D, enough to be at least a top 25, yet they finished 86th.
If that is what it is, that is what it is. But . . . do we really want to see a team competing for a Natty that finished ranked around 86th in Total Defense each year?
I don't know the answer. Obviously to Auburn fans, now that they have a good coach, the answer is yes.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 8:58 pm to nb200016
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Auburn fans are going to argue against anything that ruins their ability to snap a ball faster than anyone can get ready.
It's the only way they're going to beat anyone so I get it.
What do a 109 yard kick return and an 80 yard tipped hailmary on 4th and 18 have to do with a quick snap? They were both after timeouts, amirite?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:00 pm to DaleDenton
Nope.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:01 pm to nb200016
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Exactly.
LSU did just fine and it took us about 2 quarters to sift through their smoke and mirrors. Just a matter of time.
LSU TIGAH dick ridin. Melt day?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:01 pm to DaleDenton
Bert are the quality of the game
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:03 pm to Bham4Tide
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UNH fans will tell you that once they have the talent on D, that it will get better. But, when has this actually happened at any school that runs the HUNH? Auburn had plenty of talent last year on D, enough to be at least a top 25, yet they finished 86th.
Jake Holland started 14 games last year, the safeties were converted DBs and there was zero depth at corners. Anybody who thought they had a chance to be a top 25 Defense, doesn't know football. And in spite all that, they still managed to win the SEC.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:14 pm to nb200016
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Emoticon response usually means you don't have a comeback lol
It's certainly no "you mad bro" if only everyone could reach your higher plane of discussion.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:46 pm to DaleDenton
Watching Arkansas fans spit shine Saban's cock over this rule is just magnificent.
It's crazy how blind loyalty to a coach with zero SEC wins causes them to do things they would never otherwise do.
It's crazy how blind loyalty to a coach with zero SEC wins causes them to do things they would never otherwise do.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
When Saban first announced his rule, I thought it was bull. And I still do , to a point. You shouldn't be able to limit how fast an offense can go.
However, after thinking more and more on it, I do have one problem with the HUNH offenses. The whole hurry to the line, so we can take forever to snap , but not allow the defense to sub bull, AUBURN and others.
If you want to go fast then go fast. Maybe there should be a rule that once your center is over the ball you have 10/ 15 secs to snap it. Or it's a delay of game.
So instead of NS rule of you have to wait 10 secs to snap, if you want to go fast , then get to the line and run your play.
However, after thinking more and more on it, I do have one problem with the HUNH offenses. The whole hurry to the line, so we can take forever to snap , but not allow the defense to sub bull, AUBURN and others.
If you want to go fast then go fast. Maybe there should be a rule that once your center is over the ball you have 10/ 15 secs to snap it. Or it's a delay of game.
So instead of NS rule of you have to wait 10 secs to snap, if you want to go fast , then get to the line and run your play.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:24 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
I'll give you Jake Holland.
But . . . you had some wicked def. linemen.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:26 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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However, after thinking more and more on it, I do have one problem with the HUNH offenses. The whole hurry to the line, so we can take forever to snap , but not allow the defense to sub bull, AUBURN and others.
If you want to go fast then go fast. Maybe there should be a rule that once your center is over the ball you have 10/ 15 secs to snap it. Or it's a delay of game.
Wow…I've seen some crazy stuff, but this one is right up there. So a team that prefers to play up tempo should not be allowed the the entirety of the play clock?
What about a team that jogs to the lines of scrimmage…how much of the play clock are they allowed?
Does the team that uses a brisk walk only get, say….22 seconds?
Will the refs throw a "warning flag" so that the offense knows how much time they get on any particular play?
Delay of game for playing too fast?……yikes! Is that Georgia public school logic?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:28 pm to Roger Klarvin
You should have seen Auburn fans after Malzahn left, they were so happy to get back to "real Auburn football" and not a gimmicky offense.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:36 pm to Whens lunch
I see you point , my point is. That the only reason some of the teams are going up tempo is to keep the defense from subbing out.
You think that it is in the spirit of the game for a team to get to the line a the start of the 40 and then take the whole time to figure out its play , just keeping the defense from doing the same by subbing?
I'm not saying my suggestion doesn't have issues, but there has to be a solution , as I said I prefer the teams getting to the line and snapping it as fast as possible.
I see no difference in a defense faking an injury to stop play , as a coach ( Malzahn) screaming get to the line , just so he can keep the d from subbing, knowing all a long he won't snap till 5 secs left on the play clock. That's not offensive genious, it's just taking advantage of the rules.
Just like years ago in basketball , teams would hold the ball as long as they could in 4 corners , they put in a shot clock.
What I suggested is no different than the 10 sec rule to get across half court.
You think that it is in the spirit of the game for a team to get to the line a the start of the 40 and then take the whole time to figure out its play , just keeping the defense from doing the same by subbing?
I'm not saying my suggestion doesn't have issues, but there has to be a solution , as I said I prefer the teams getting to the line and snapping it as fast as possible.
I see no difference in a defense faking an injury to stop play , as a coach ( Malzahn) screaming get to the line , just so he can keep the d from subbing, knowing all a long he won't snap till 5 secs left on the play clock. That's not offensive genious, it's just taking advantage of the rules.
Just like years ago in basketball , teams would hold the ball as long as they could in 4 corners , they put in a shot clock.
What I suggested is no different than the 10 sec rule to get across half court.
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