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re: Ivan Maisel hits the nail on the head.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:47 pm to Whens lunch
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:47 pm to Whens lunch
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Delay of game for playing too fast?
Where did I say that, I basically said delay of game for snapping to slow , once you address the ball.
Hell go as fast as you can , faster the better.
But once your line gets to the line of scrimage , you better be ready to go. Stop getting to the line and then standing up and taking the whole play clock.
In basketball you have 5 secs to inbound , when you get the ball.
In baseball , when the pitcher is set , he's got go or they call time.
Most sports have a rule in some form , that once your ready , it's time to play.
This has been altered by HUNH, offenses, we're ready lets go, wait , maybe not, hold on coach is holding up a Miley Cyrus card, gotta change the play. ??
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 12:00 am
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:52 pm to Stonehog
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You should have seen Auburn fans after Malzahn left, they were so happy to get back to "real Auburn football" and not a gimmicky offense.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:13 am to DaleDenton
Downvoted by erry aubie.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:23 am to 3rddownonthe8
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But once your line gets to the line of scrimage , you better be ready to go. Stop getting to the line and then standing up and taking the whole play clock.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:32 am to RollTide1987
The big point of the HUNH is to prevent the defense from substituting. So what. Why should the offense wait for the defense to substitute. If your defense can't defend everything my offense can do without substituting….figure out a new defense.
A secondary benefit is wearing the defense down. If your defense isn't conditioned to maintain a pace….get your defense in condition.
Big and strong has its advantages….so does conditioned and smart. LIne up to play ball….or call time out.
A secondary benefit is wearing the defense down. If your defense isn't conditioned to maintain a pace….get your defense in condition.
Big and strong has its advantages….so does conditioned and smart. LIne up to play ball….or call time out.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 12:35 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:40 am to piggidyphish
Dumb Aubie.....
He just said the rule was changed in 2008 DUHHHHH DUHHHH.
So if the rule isn't working properly fix it.
We know why you are in the same camp with Baylor and Oregon, that is because you can't compete at real football.
I got news for you, that 8th official this year, his job is going to be to control the snap off the ball i.e. he isn't going to allow the refs to HURRY UP, the ball wilk be moved in a moderate, nornal rythem, just like in the NFL.
He just said the rule was changed in 2008 DUHHHHH DUHHHH.
So if the rule isn't working properly fix it.
We know why you are in the same camp with Baylor and Oregon, that is because you can't compete at real football.
I got news for you, that 8th official this year, his job is going to be to control the snap off the ball i.e. he isn't going to allow the refs to HURRY UP, the ball wilk be moved in a moderate, nornal rythem, just like in the NFL.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:49 am to Whens lunch
Doesn't seem smarter too me, seems like like the littlest kid in dodgeball hiding behind the bigger kids, till he only has to play against one kid. It's a little bit chicken.
Now in this point I am only talking about running to the line to keep from subbing, and still clearing the play clock.
If you wasn't to go fast , go fast, get to the line, make your read and go... If the defense wears out ... So be it.
Now in this point I am only talking about running to the line to keep from subbing, and still clearing the play clock.
If you wasn't to go fast , go fast, get to the line, make your read and go... If the defense wears out ... So be it.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:06 am to 3rddownonthe8
HUNH has leveled the playing field for those teams that for whatever reason can't field a bunch of bigger and bigger athletes.
Why is this considered so unfair to the big guys that they feel the rules need to be changed?
If an offensive coach doesn't need to substitute to run his offense, why should the defensive coach demand rule changes to allow them to run theirs?
Is there something about fair competition frightening to you? You can run HUNH on me if you want….the rules allow it. The rules allow you to hurry to line of scrimmage to prevent my substitutions. Stand there and snap with ball with one second on the clock if you want. Make me adjust. If you don't, maybe your making a mistake on offense.
If big is a disadvantage, get smaller. Basketball coaches do this all the time rotating big and small lineups to their advantage. Nothing prevents football coaches from doing the same. Know your opponent, game plan effectively, call time outs when needed and execute. If you don't have the roster to match up, recruit differently.
Why is this considered so unfair to the big guys that they feel the rules need to be changed?
If an offensive coach doesn't need to substitute to run his offense, why should the defensive coach demand rule changes to allow them to run theirs?
Is there something about fair competition frightening to you? You can run HUNH on me if you want….the rules allow it. The rules allow you to hurry to line of scrimmage to prevent my substitutions. Stand there and snap with ball with one second on the clock if you want. Make me adjust. If you don't, maybe your making a mistake on offense.
If big is a disadvantage, get smaller. Basketball coaches do this all the time rotating big and small lineups to their advantage. Nothing prevents football coaches from doing the same. Know your opponent, game plan effectively, call time outs when needed and execute. If you don't have the roster to match up, recruit differently.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:08 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:19 am to Whens lunch
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Now in this point I am only talking about running to the line to keep from subbing, and still clearing the play clock.
I've already addressed subbing. If your defense can't keep up, you're doing something wrong.
If you don't like that I'm running time off the clock, standing at the line of scrimmage, I do it to get my play in. You use a huddle. I don't complain about where or how you communicate your plays.
Are you worried about all the valuable playing time wasted while I'm at the line of scrimmage figuring out what I'm gonna do next?
That would be suggesting that a ball control, grind it out offense that runs 9 minutes off the clock trying to score, should snap the ball sooner than they want. A ball control offense is by definition pissing away precious minutes on the play clock to their advantage. Does this need to stop, too?
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:21 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:28 am to Whens lunch
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Doesn't seem smarter too me, seems like like the littlest kid in dodgeball hiding behind the bigger kids, till he only has to play against one kid. It's a little bit chicken.
My chicken littlest kid on the block is looking to run 95 plays a game on offense. That means my little chicken squirts are ready to get hit more times than your big guys.
Apparently tough comes in many sizes.
Of course the reality is my guys aren't really the littlest kids on the block. They're actually some of the biggest. They're just ready to go more times a game.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:32 am to Whens lunch
What you say makes sense from your side.
So let's all switch to HUNH, and so that means , we all should recruit faster and smaller. Hey while we are at it let's eliminate half the line , since we are all going smaller.
Wait a minute , this is great, the arena league , will love this because now college football has become exactly the players they use. Maybe the NFL will too! Maybe they should lose the pads so we can go faster. And let's don't tackle because , that will allow the offense to go faster. Hey maybe we can just wear little flags , or maybe 2 hand touch.
Like I've tried to explain, why should you be able to STALL at the line of scrimmage and prevent subbing.
Why have 85 schollys? Let's just give out 24. 11 o and 11 d. And a couple of kickers. At least now we can have some more mens teams in other sports.
All of that is absurd. , I know... But so is standing at the line , just so the other team can't let others play, you either like to play fast or you like to find a hole in the rules to allow the other team not sub.
Of course what the defense could do , is push every play to the sidelines and out of bounds. HUNH coaches would raise hell that the D was intentionally slowing the game.
I like seeing the speed , I just don't like watching GUS, jumping up and down , screaming get to the line get to the line , they may sub!
So let's all switch to HUNH, and so that means , we all should recruit faster and smaller. Hey while we are at it let's eliminate half the line , since we are all going smaller.
Wait a minute , this is great, the arena league , will love this because now college football has become exactly the players they use. Maybe the NFL will too! Maybe they should lose the pads so we can go faster. And let's don't tackle because , that will allow the offense to go faster. Hey maybe we can just wear little flags , or maybe 2 hand touch.
Like I've tried to explain, why should you be able to STALL at the line of scrimmage and prevent subbing.
Why have 85 schollys? Let's just give out 24. 11 o and 11 d. And a couple of kickers. At least now we can have some more mens teams in other sports.
All of that is absurd. , I know... But so is standing at the line , just so the other team can't let others play, you either like to play fast or you like to find a hole in the rules to allow the other team not sub.
Of course what the defense could do , is push every play to the sidelines and out of bounds. HUNH coaches would raise hell that the D was intentionally slowing the game.
I like seeing the speed , I just don't like watching GUS, jumping up and down , screaming get to the line get to the line , they may sub!
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:43 am to S.E.C. Crazy
I like your sig quote
it's funny that both you and one of the Arky dumbasses got so upset when I sig-quoted you both that you made up a stupid quote that both of you thought was funny
it's funny that both you and one of the Arky dumbasses got so upset when I sig-quoted you both that you made up a stupid quote that both of you thought was funny
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:58 am to antibarner
Yup. But have seen refs literally bend down and hold the ball while they look at the Alabama sideline until subs come in. That advantage is already there. And that is why they are getting yelled at.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:27 am to 3rddownonthe8
Dude. There is nothing to stop you subbing while the offense is looking at the sideline. This is weak sauce.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:39 am to beachreb61
Except , that if you run someone on they quick snap and your 12 men penalty
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:18 am to 3rddownonthe8
Could happen to the offense too.
ETA: Sorry your linemen are fat.
ETA: Sorry your linemen are fat.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 3:20 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 5:15 am to beachreb61
How could it happen to the offense , the offense calls the snap.
As I've said, I like the hurry up style, but just run it in a hurry , not a hurry to stall.
As I've said, I like the hurry up style, but just run it in a hurry , not a hurry to stall.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 5:18 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:19 am to 3rddownonthe8
There a time and a place for the hurry up. I don't like the hurry up and sit there with these gay cards. It's gay and I would be pissed if lsu started doing it. Fitting that barners and jar guzzlers like this brand of football. Give me the 2000-2010 period of football back.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:20 am to 3rddownonthe8
There a time and a place for the hurry up. I don't like the hurry up and sit there with these gay cards. It's gay and I would be pissed if lsu started doing it. Fitting that barners and jar guzzlers like this brand of football. Give me the 2000-2010 period of football back.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:54 am to Nado Jenkins83
The HUNH pushes the old football adage " your best 11 vs my best 11". I love how the bammers and Saban are saying that HUNH goes against the intent of football. What it does is prevent the game being controlled by a coach on the sideline and puts the outcome in the hands of the players. It is exactly how they played football in the 50s.
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