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re: Ivan Maisel hits the nail on the head.

Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by OSqueal
Where ever the beer is
Member since Jan 2011
5390 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:31 pm to
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I think you mean "all college football fans except Arkansas and Alabama"


Hyperbole much?
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
2227 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:36 pm to
Paying attention to anything the espin media ho's say will make you go blind.
Posted by Whens lunch
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2012
558 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:06 pm to
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And as I have said ad nauseum, I have no issue going as gags as possible, hell snap it as soon as it's spotted as far as I care , I love that. My only , issue is when the teams run to the line just to prohibit dubbing? And then proceed to stand up and take almost the entire play clock to get their play set and go, if the o is going go take their sweet time the Def should be able to sub.


So, …. apparently you feel so disadvantaged by someone else's offense playing by the rules, that you think the rules should be changed.

Sheesh, grow a pair.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38015 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 5:34 pm to
Early 20th Century Ivan Maisel:

"And then the bloody player HURLED the pigskin FORWARD through the air! How terribly HORRIFYING!"
Posted by nb200016
Atlanta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
1282 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:07 am to
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So, …. apparently you feel so disadvantaged by someone else's offense playing by the rules, that you think the rules should be changed.

Sheesh, grow a pair.



Rules are broken all the time. Sometimes they need fixin.

Targeting for example. It was a rule, but you'll be hard pressed to find anyone that actually agreed with its execution.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:14 am to
Sorry. The game has evolved. Deal with it.
Posted by Whens lunch
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2012
558 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:40 am to
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Rules are broken all the time. Sometimes they need fixin.

Targeting for example. It was a rule, but you'll be hard pressed to find anyone that actually agreed with its execution.


Good example? …. not really.

You just said I'd be hard pressed to find anyone that agreed with its execution. Very true with respect to the targeting rules. Therein lies a big difference. There's no groundswell of opposition here. What we do have here is a few coaches and the fans of their teams who are reluctant to change.

There are no rules that require theses coaches to recruit, coach, game plan or manage on game day differently. But rather than adjust to the evolution of the game, they and apparently some fans would prefer to legislate away those things that present problems.

Real coaches coach. They don't whine. They innovate, They find a way to win.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 10:42 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:03 am to
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My only , issue is when the teams run to the line just to prohibit dubbing? And then proceed to stand up


I'm on board with you. They hurry up to prevent the subbing. But then they are there standing at the line of scrimmage seeing the defense... and then they turn to the sideline to get the playcall.
(you can remove the part about taking the entire playclock. most HUNH teams don't do what UGA did with Murray at times).

If you are going to allow HUNH to prevent subbing, make sure that a playcall is made. If the team wants to audible a change, then no biggie. But at least they are in formation ready for the snap and not in formation ready to get the play in from the smiling Lee Corso playcard.
Posted by Whens lunch
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2012
558 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:19 am to
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If you are going to allow HUNH to prevent subbing, make sure that a playcall is made. If the team wants to audible a change, then no biggie. But at least they are in formation ready for the snap and not in formation ready to get the play in from the smiling Lee Corso playcard.



To this I say…..look how much time we're giving you to set your defense.

What's gonna be the next problem, we line up in 5 wide, patiently wait for you to substitute into a 3-3-5 with the ref standing over the ball, and then when you finally tell us you're ready... we run the ball down your throats out of that formation?

Well, that just wouldn't be fair would it. You thought we were gonna pass. Maybe that should be a penalty. "15yards, deceiving the defense."
Posted by autodd03
Clown world
Member since Dec 2013
2532 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:22 am to
If the cards work so well for offense, then why can't the D use a variation of cards to respond?
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3449 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 12:31 pm to
Funny how in a mere 3yrs - this offense went from a High School offense to one that needs rules put in place to stop it.

I didn't think it would work in the SEC. Whiners going to whine.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 12:42 pm to
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To this I say…..look how much time we're giving you to set your defense. What's gonna be the next problem, we line up in 5 wide, patiently wait for you to substitute into a 3-3-5 with the ref standing over the ball, and then when you finally tell us you're ready... we run the ball down your throats out of that formation? Well, that just wouldn't be fair would it. You thought we were gonna pass. Maybe that should be a penalty. "15yards, deceiving the defense."


It's not that big of a deal to me.

But I could see a ref taking his time in spotting the ball down when he sees the offense rush into a formation without a play having been called.

The only point of rushing to the line is to prevent substitutions.

It's not the biggest deal in the world, because a defensive player can take a knee if he's cramping. Heck... he can take a knee if he feels nauseous or winded and play would probably be stopped.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38015 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 5:15 pm to
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So you were comparing your team's strategy to the Taliban's? They are some pretty underhanded bastards, you know?


Yeah, the element of surprise in warfare is only used by underhanded bastards.

Guys like Napoleon, Grant, Lee, Patton, Halsey, Spruance, Yamamoto, Eisenhower, never included the element of surprise in their strategies.

As a matter of fact, I think the call went something like this: "Herr Hitler? Yes, General Eisenhower here. For your information, the day will be June 6. Wouldn't want you to be caught by surprise or anything like that, ol' chum."
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
14849 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 6:26 pm to
So will the game clock stop for these ten seconds? Cause if not, I'd hate to be the team trying to score in the last minute with the ref intentionally wasting 10 seconds of game clock after every play.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38015 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 6:50 pm to
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Except , that if you run someone on they quick snap and your 12 men penalty


AU subbed defensive linemen all game against Texas A&M and never received a single 12-man penalty.

Sorry that your coaches are incompetent.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38015 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 6:53 pm to
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That's all fine and dandy if you QB is making the calls too.
But having Gus, Freeze, Sumlin.. Whoever making the call against a jr linebacker , and having the whole play click to go without the ability to do anything in the scheme you need , because the offense may snap it...,


So now you're saying that Saban, Kirby, Richt, Bobo, and Pruitt should be given all the time in the world they need to make adjustments and substitutions, but Malzahn, Freeze, and Sumlin shouldn't be allowed to observer Bama and UGA's formations and adjust?

Wow.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23715 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:03 pm to
Run the Meerkat all you want, just as long as the officials do not speed up their normal pace or hurry the ball into play.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38015 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:13 pm to
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Run the Meerkat all you want, just as long as the officials do not speed up their normal pace or hurry the ball into play.



Except when Bama has the need to speed up the pace and hurry the ball into play.

Right?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23715 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:10 pm to
Of course,that's called REC TIME . Duncecap.
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