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re: Ivan Maisel hits the nail on the head.

Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:45 pm to
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Some are wanting to turn the chess game of football into checkers, I disagree with the the ideology of these mental midgets.


Why? I thought you were pro berts ideas
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:45 pm to
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Gus


took longer than I thought for him to get brought up.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:45 pm to
Wrong.

Chess has pieces that can move in a variety of ways, call these plays.

Checkers have pieces that are limited in the movement of them.

Therefore this is not speed chess, running 4-5 plays as fast as possible is checkers not chess.
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:47 pm to
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Chess has pieces that can move in a variety of ways, call these plays. Checkers have pieces that are limited in the movement of them. Therefore this is not speed chess, running 4-5 plays as fast as possible is checkers not chess.


it was stupid when you made the analogy the first time, trying to justify it isn't improving it.
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:48 pm to
I can't wait until Bert is fired and Arky moves to an up-tempo offense to compete.

The resulting cognitive dissonance should be hilarious to watch in real time.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:48 pm to
Maisel has Alabama's metaphorical cock in the back of his throat at all times. He grew up a Bama fan so I don't judge him for it, just bullshite he is a major CFB writer for ESPN
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:50 pm to
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Checkers have pieces that are limited in the movement of them.



like defensive players that are limited to one type of defensive play?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Chess has pieces that can move in a variety of ways, call these plays.


So, in your opinion, spread offenses don't have pieces that can move in a variety of ways?

quote:

Therefore this is not speed chess, running 4-5 plays as fast as possible is checkers not chess

So, you are arguing that we need to go back to the old school ways then, but not the old school way of run it until they stop it?

In all seriousness, in what way is Arky's offense more complex than AU's? At the end of the day, both run basically the same run plays (same within their own offense, not that AU and Arky run the same plays), the only thing that varies is the formation.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:51 pm to
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I can't wait until Bert is fired and Arky moves to an up-tempo offense to compete.

The resulting cognitive dissonance should be hilarious to watch in real time.



he tried somewhat in the Auburn game
Posted by iglass
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:52 pm to
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so which is it?... are we doing this for player safety, or b/c you like it better?


Safety. I never want to see injuries on the the field.

Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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18880 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:53 pm to
Eh there's nothing wrong with maisel saying what he'd prefer to see. He's a guy with an opinion of what he likes about football. I don't agree with his opinion but at least he's not showing his arse by crying 'injuries' when the real issue he just wants it done differently.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:55 pm to
I agree. He is entitled to his opinion on the style of football he prefers.

His reasoning, however, is stupid. Apparently the strategy involved in running a HUNH offense is over his head.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:55 pm to
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iglass


it was the standing around that led to that injury...if they'd hurried up to the line he'd have been fine.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:57 pm to
I tried to hit you in the head with a sarcasm 2x4 and you broke it.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:58 pm to
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I tried to hit you in the head with a sarcasm 2x4 and you broke it.


Yikes...nothing about that was serious. emoticon
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Ivan Maisel


Huge fan of the 280 lb linebacker.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:04 pm to
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Maisel's third point:


quote:


3. The play-clock rule amended Nick Saban had a point. Before college football adopted the 40-second play clock in 2008, the umpire stood over the ball for a short period of time before he "wound up" the 25-second play clock. Up-tempo offenses succeed in part by preventing the defense from substituting. This is what's best for the game? The intent of the 40-second clock, to speed up the time of the game, sped up the game itself. I'd rather watch an offense and defense match strategy than watch which team has the most organized sideline. Amend the rule to allow the umpire to stand over the ball for 10 seconds until both teams have had a chance to sub. Let an up-tempo team win because it wears out the defense once the ball is snapped, not before it's snapped.


I have heard this arguement before about the 25 Sec Clock and why the Umpire stood over the ball. It was not to allow substitution, it was for the purpose of reseting the clock after first downs and balls out of bounds. If you remember the rule before the 40 sec clock, the clock would stop on first downs, balls out of bounds and incomplete passes. They only one who could reset the game clock was the umpire, who would wait until the rest of the refs were in place.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70290 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:12 pm to
How come these articles never talk about how the ref already holds play until the defense can sub, if the offense subs.

The hunh merely negates the advantage a defense has of being able to see the personnel ahead of time and match up.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:18 pm to
It's funny, I have distinct memories from every SEC matchup we had last year, except Arkansas.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:21 pm to
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The hunh merely negates the advantage a defense has of being able to see the personnel ahead of time and match up.


The old cheating in madden where you see the three plays they could have called and choose against it.
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