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Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:07 pm to djsdawg
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Tds matter most about winning games as a team but that doesn't prove much about the quality of a rb. It's too dependent upon how many scoring opportunities a player can get.
What about finishing a season?
I mean, Walker had a worse YPC than both LF7 and Chubb.
So can I say LF7 is better than Walker?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:08 pm to JayDeerTay84
I swear this thread should be stickied
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:13 pm to wadewilson
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t's one stat. It hardly tells the whole story.
Of course. There are other stats for other parts of the story, but what is the part of the story we are discussing? The ability of a rb to gain yards running the ball, and YPC is the stat that best tells that part of the story.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:15 pm to djsdawg
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The ability of a rb to gain yards running the ball, and YPC is the stat that best tells that part of the story.
No thats YOUR story.
I want a RB I can count on, who gets 1st downs, moves the chains, can finish a game and scores points, can block, can catch.
I mean, according to you Guice is better than both LF7 and Chubb.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:16 pm to JayDeerTay84
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What about finishing a season?
Now you're just being a dick.
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I mean, Walker had a worse YPC than both LF7 and Chubb.
So can I say LF7 is better than Walker?
It's not really fair to judge players in different eras.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:18 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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What about finishing a season?
Now you're just being a dick.
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I mean, Walker had a worse YPC than both LF7 and Chubb.
So can I say LF7 is better than Walker?
It's not really fair to judge players in different eras.
Im being a dick because its the truth? I hate it when a player gets hurt, but when they are hurt, their value to the team is close to Zero.
Different eras? Bitch arse excuse.
I'd say its much harder to do what Henry did given the level of talent in the SEC now compared to then.
Edit, and for the record, this thread is about the best backfield duo in the SEC going into 2016 when the #1 spot is based on "ifs"......
SO yea, talking about injuries is valid and not dickish especially considering the "type" of injury Chubb had.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:26 pm to JayDeerTay84
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mean, according to you Guice is better than both LF7 and Chubb.
Nope. He is a backup rb. We are comparing starters.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:27 pm to djsdawg
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Nope. He is a backup rb. We are comparing starters.
Do you know what thread you are in?
But that's funny because 5 minutes ago you simply said YPC tells the best story.
SO that only applies to starters now?
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:31 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Different eras? Bitch arse excuse.
I'd say its much harder to do what Henry did given the level of talent in the SEC now compared to then.
It's not an excuse you dipshit.
And no, it's not harder now. Maybe the 84 means the year you were born so you're too young to know that teams actually stacked the fricking box back then and teams played 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Now teams spread everyone out making it easier.
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SO yea, talking about injuries is valid and not dickish especially considering the "type" of injury Chubb had.
Nah, you were just being a dick.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:33 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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It's not an excuse you dipshit.
And no, it's not harder now. Maybe the 84 means the year you were born so you're too young to know that teams actually stacked the fricking box back then and teams played 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Now teams spread everyone out making it easier.
Thats like, your opinion man. Get used to people not always agreeing with you....
However, Bama doesn't run a spread. Neither does LSU....
SOOOOOO.........
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Nah, you were just being a dick.
OMG someone talked about a sports related injury affecting said player in said sport for the upcoming year.
So dickish.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:35 pm to JayDeerTay84
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your story I want a RB I can count on, who gets 1st downs, moves the chains, can finish a game and scores points, can block, can catch.
If you don't want to talk about the most essential part of a rb's job, which is to gain yards running, Feel free introducing other Stats to tell specific parts of the story you want to tell.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:36 pm to djsdawg
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If you don't want to talk about the most essential part of a rb's job, which is to gain yards running, Feel free introducing other Stats to tell specific parts of the story you want to tell.
Well I did, you then moved the posts to say, starters only.
Now you say its to gain yards.
10 minutes ago it was YPC.
Which is it?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:43 pm to JayDeerTay84
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funny because 5 minutes ago you simply said YPC tells the best story
It does......In the context of discussing primary rb's. We aren't discussing backups, and their few carries. I didn't think such a basic concept had to be spelled out.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:46 pm to djsdawg
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It does......In the context of discussing primary rb's. We aren't discussing backups, and their few carries. I didn't think such a basic concept had to be spelled out.
Again I ask do you know what thread you are in..
But I forget, every thread you turn into a LF7/Chubb pissing contest.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:47 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Now you say its to gain yards. 10 minutes ago it was YPC.
It's been about Gaining yards on a per carry basis from the start.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:48 pm to JayDeerTay84
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However, Bama doesn't run a spread. Neither does LSU....
SOOOOOO.........
Still more spread out than most running teams of the 80s
SOOOOOO.........
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OMG someone talked about a sports related injury affecting said player in said sport for the upcoming year.
So dickish.
Glad you can admit you were being a dick.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:49 pm to djsdawg
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It's been about Gaining yards on a per carry basis from the start.
OK, Guice is better. Case closed.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:50 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Still more spread out than most running teams of the 80s
SOOOOOO.........
Maybe that would mean something if the RB I was talking about was on a Spread team.
When D's Face Bama, they aren't facing a spread running team. Henry was running up their a-hole.
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Glad you can admit you were being a dick.
Glad you admit to being a pussy.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:01 pm to JayDeerTay84
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you know what thread you are in.
We went off on a tangent specifically about fournette d's major drop off after a fast start.
As for guice, he is the one person who has never had to carry the load from the start. He has simply racked up stats in 4th q carries vs tired d's. The type of carry is a major detail. The more carries had, the more meaningful ypc becomes and vice versa.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 9:02 pm
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