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re: Am I off base in the comments below regarding Fournette/Guice vs Chubb/Michel?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:20 am to PurpleandGeauld
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:20 am to PurpleandGeauld
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But based on actual production,
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That is done and in the books
Funny, considering in 2014 NC blew LF out of the water in just about every metric there is to compare RBs. But no, LSU fans had a laundry list of excuses:
-Miles' playcalling is holding lf back
-we play in the harder division (nevermind they had 5 common opponents and NC absolutely dominated the stats in all 5 meetings)
-We had brandon harris
-Defenses were keying in more on lf than they were on chubb
-LF has more potential and will be better in the nfl
-etc etc etc
But apparently what actually happened on the field in '14 was irrelevant. Now that in '15 LF broke through and did have a dominant season, now actual production trumps all.
Y'all are a funny bunch.
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:36 am to DBU
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for nearly 200 total yards against Ole Miss, 200 total yards against aTm and over 250 total yards for 5 total TDs in the bowl game. Wtf you talking about
Compare his rushing numbers from September to his November and blow your mind.
Or do rushing from games 1-5 vs games 6-11 and blow it another way.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:50 am to Number 31
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One of the things I expect to see this year is LSU using HUNH for a couple series each game with the ultimate goal being to get more touches for our playmakers with the logic being that our skill guys are better than most teams we play and that the law of averages dictates that the more our RBs and WRs touch the ball the more the score will reflect in our favor.
The problem with that is typically HUNH teams strike fast. They break long plays.....TYPICALLY. That being the case it would mean fewer touches, not more. If you don't believe me look at Auburn 2010, 2013. Oregon, etc. I would be willing to bet their TOP and # of plays are significantly less than their opponents.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:54 am to DawgGONIT
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Fournette **may** be faster but Chubb
Don't know the answer to this....but....which is faster? No opinions. Does anybody know their 40 times? Or 100? I'm curious. I know Fournette is very fast...but I also know Chubb ran track in HS, so I would think he is very fast, too.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:35 am to ForeverLSU02
Yes
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:39 am to molsusports
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Worrying about the ranking is stupid
People were just criticizing the ranking and for good reason. Forever was playing devil's advocate and got jumped for it. He came over here to get support from UGA and Bama fans, which is kind of sad TBH.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:50 am to djsdawg
You said he sizzled out at the end of the season, I posted his numbers from the last three games.
Sorry Chubb couldn't make it through the year I guess he sizzled out early too.
Sorry Chubb couldn't make it through the year I guess he sizzled out early too.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:11 am to DBU
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Sorry Chubb couldn't make it through the year I guess he sizzled out early too
There it is yet again. LSU fan essentially making light of Chubb's injury. So pathetic.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 12:22 pm to WG_Dawg
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But apparently what actually happened on the field in '14 was irrelevant. Now that in '15 LF broke through and did have a dominant season, now actual production trumps all.
I have said in previous posts Chubb was significantly better in 2014 than LF. In 2015, LF was better.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 12:25 pm to ArabianKnight
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"Leonard Fournette smashed the LSU record book in his first full season as the starter and emerged as the nation’s best running back"
I believe the Doak Walker award is given to the best running back in the nation. And Fournette didn't win that. So, yes, you are off base.
Well, officially, LF was the NCAA rushing champion. The DW award apparently used other criteria in determining who the "best running back" was.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 2:38 pm to DBU
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You said he sizzled out at the end of the season, I posted his numbers from the last three games.
Sorry Chubb couldn't make it through the year I guess he sizzled out early too.
I didn't use that word but the point remains when you go through with a comparison I asked you to go through. What you posted doesn't change that one bit.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 2:45 pm to ForeverLSU02
Posted on 7/29/16 at 2:52 pm to DawgsLife
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He went for nearly 200 total yards against Ole Miss, 200 total yards against aTm and over 250 total yards for 5 total TDs in the bowl game.
Wtf are you talking about.
I'm talking about his 1.6 avg, his 4.8 avg, 4.3 avg, 5 yd avg and 7.3 avg in the bowl game. Again he started out on fire, but finished with these lowish rushing averages. Now if you compare that to how he began the season, then YES he did in fact finish not as strong.
quote:I know, that is why I said **may**. I know Chubb ran track and wasn't he timed at 4.4 forty? So if Fournette is in fact faster, it ain't going to be by much.
Don't know the answer to this....but....which is faster? No opinions. Does anybody know their 40 times? Or 100? I'm curious. I know Fournette is very fast...but I also know Chubb ran track in HS, so I would think he is very fast, too.
But on game film, Fournette seems look just barely faster but if so it ain't by much.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 2:54 pm to PurpleandGeauld
One of them had 146 rushing yards and a Td against Alabama. The other... Well he didn't do that
Posted on 7/29/16 at 2:57 pm to BamaSaint
quote:I like this game.
One of them had 146 rushing yards and a Td against Alabama. The other... Well he didn't do that
One had 180 rushing yards and 2 tds vs Florida.
One had 0 rushing yards and 0 tds vs Florida
Posted on 7/29/16 at 3:00 pm to lsupride87
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I like this game.
One had 180 rushing yards and 2 tds vs Florida.
One had 0 rushing yards and 0 tds vs Florida
Really??
Posted on 7/29/16 at 3:01 pm to lsupride87
Thanks for proving the point. You have to go to games that Chubb didn't even play in to tout fournette. When both are healthy, the stats favor one of them easily and he plays in red and black. Sorry 
Posted on 7/29/16 at 3:01 pm to DrewDawg13
Posted on 7/29/16 at 3:02 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:LF against Carolina 7.9 yds per carry. Chubb 7.6 yds per carry.
Thanks for proving the point. You have to go to games that Chubb didn't even play in to tout fournette. When both are healthy, the stats favor one of them easily and he plays in red and black. Sorry
You were saying?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 3:03 pm to ForeverLSU02
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He averaged almost 8.6 ypc while Fournette was around 6.8
Isaiah McKenzie averages about 11YPC. Not saying Guice won't be special when he gets to carry the load, but he's unproven with limited touches so far.
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