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re: Am I off base in the comments below regarding Fournette/Guice vs Chubb/Michel?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:05 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:05 pm to djsdawg
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As for guice, he is the one person who has never had to carry the load from the start. He has simply racked up stats in 4th q carries vs tired d's. The type of carry is a major detail. The more carries had, the more meaningful ypc becomes and vice versa.
YPC is YPC as game time is game time.
I mean, People continually use Chubb's stats vs Bama, but majority were in Garbage time. SO we both know that game time is game time.
Secondly, over half of Guice's carries came before the 4th.
Sooo...
But hey, you continually point out why YPC is not the only metric nor is it the best.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 9:06 pm
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:07 pm to JayDeerTay84
Kentuky's Boom Williams had a 7.07 YPC on 121 carries. Does that make him the second best back in the SEC?
Is that good enough for you? Or does that not count?
Is that good enough for you? Or does that not count?
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:42 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Kentuky's Boom Williams had a higher YPC than CHubb as well with 121 carries.
He is a really good rb, but he didn't have a higher ypc than nick Chubb.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:53 pm to JayDeerTay84
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mean, People continually use Chubb's stats vs Bama, but majority were in Garbage time. SO we both know that game time is game time. Secondly, over half of Guice's carries came before the 4th.
The details and context are far more important than you know.
The difference is Chubb wasn't fresh going against a tired D worn down by the Starter.
Guice has had 11 career carries in the first half of a game. 45% of carries coming in the 4th is a very big %.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:59 pm to djsdawg
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The details and context are far more important than you know.
Yet Bama being up by like 35 points had nothing to do with intensity right?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:03 pm to JayDeerTay84
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being up by like 35 points had nothing to do with intensity right?
Really depends on the situation. In this case, not as much as you imply. You should know saban better than this and understand the intensity point could apply more to a mark richt team.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:06 pm to djsdawg
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Really depends on the situation. In this case, not as much as you imply. You should know saban better than this and understand the intensity point could apply more to a mark richt team.
LOL OK, whatever you say. UGA was getting skull drugged.
LSU was down 3 to Bama at half.
Edit: not to mention UGA was at home.
And dont try and tell me that shite dont matter.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:11 pm to JayDeerTay84
It is quite funny tho, this thread, every other sentence you have a reason why YPC isn't the only metric yet only use YPC to win your argument.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:13 pm to JayDeerTay84
It matters less with saban stalking the side lines, and since it can be applied to Uga as well, it's simply not as strong of a point as you want it to be.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:14 pm to djsdawg
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It matters less with saban stalking the side lines, and since it can be applied to Uga as well, it's simply not as strong of a point as you want it to be.
SO what I have learned, the fact that LF7 did have a higher YPC before Chubb got hurt means hes better?
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:17 pm to JayDeerTay84
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thread, every other sentence you have a reason why YPC isn't the only metric yet only use YPC to win your argument.
There are many metrics for many things. Ypc is the best for pure running ability, but does that mean it can be useful in all things? No, it doesn't have a damn thing to do with catching the ball for instance.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:18 pm to djsdawg
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There are many metrics for many things. Ypc is the best for pure running ability, but does that mean it can be useful in all things? No, it doesn't have a damn thing to do with catching the ball for instance.
OK Guice and Fournette both have higher YPC.
Consider it settled.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:18 pm to JayDeerTay84
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the fact that LF7 did have a higher YPC before Chubb got hurt means hes better?
Splitting hairs better. To be exact, 0.2 ypc better in September vs similar ranked rush d's.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:19 pm to djsdawg
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Splitting hairs better. To be exact, 0.2 ypc better in September vs similar ranked rush d's.
Better is better.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:20 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Guice and Fournette both have higher YPC.
Maybe guice is better than Michel but he hasn't proven it due to his lack of meaningful carries. Les didn't let him prove himself last year, so blame him.'
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:21 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Better is bette
There is Much better and there is barely better. They can be 2 very different things.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:22 pm to djsdawg
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Maybe guice is better than Michel but he hasn't proven it due to his lack of meaningful carries. Les didn't let him prove himself last year, so blame him.'
But he played in all games, so why isn't that a factor?
Chubb literally had a major injury yet doesn't matter, but being a back up matters as to discredit stats?
Regardless, Henry was the best back in the SEC last year even though he had less YPC than both LF7 and Chubb.
Doesn't fit your narrative.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:22 pm to djsdawg
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There is Much better and there is barely better. They can be 2 very different things.
But better is better. Best you understand LF7>Chubb.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:27 pm to ForeverLSU02
I don't really give a frick because at the of the day my team has Leonard Fournette and yours doesn't
Glad you're happy with Chubb though.
Glad you're happy with Chubb though.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:50 pm to djsdawg
You are stuck on stupid.
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