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re: Am I off base in the comments below regarding Fournette/Guice vs Chubb/Michel?

Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32801 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:38 pm to
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is better. Best you understand LF7>Chubb.


It was a short period of time, the sweet cherry was picked, but you know that slight lead wasn't gonna last much longer.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32801 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:41 pm to
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But he played in all games, so why isn't that a factor?


What do you mean? The number type of carry matters.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 11:53 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32801 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:46 pm to
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Chubb literally had a major injury yet doesn't matter, but being a back up matters as to discredit stats?


When doing a stat discussion about a starters natural ability to run the ball. Chubb's injury doesn't change his ypc. What he did, he did, and he did it as well as we have seen.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 12:13 am to
Yet you assume he would have finished the season above or below LF7. I mean. Since we are talking about things that didn't happen and all.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14836 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 8:37 am to
You guys are all stupid. You are taking something subjective and pretending to be objective about it.

Some of the best runs I've ever seen went for less than 2 yards and were "stat fails". Stats don't show how big a hole was or when a defensive player over-committed or was out of position.

Enjoy both of these guys while they're here and quit trying to force another fanbase to bow at your feet and say your guy's better.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32801 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:00 am to
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you assume he would have finished the season above or below LF7. I mean. Since we are talking about things that didn't happen and all.


Above is a safe assumption considering how much LF dropped off.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:11 am to
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Above is a safe assumption considering how much LF dropped off.


You keep saying dropped off and yet LF went for 200+ in each of the last three games of the year including a 5 TD performance in the bowl game, but sure keep making up shite in your head that makes you feel better.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4361 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:38 am to
guise and fournet are the best easily , my bias a does not have any thing to do with it !
This post was edited on 7/31/16 at 3:55 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32801 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:42 am to
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off and yet LF went for 200+ in each of the last three games of the year including a 5 TD performance in the bowl game, but sure keep making up shite in your head that makes you feel better.


Tell me what's imaginary. This is how you go from for sure heisman winner to not even in the conversation:

Games 1-05: 119 carries, 1022 yards, 12 tds, 8.58 ypc
Games 6-11: 152 carries, 719 yards, 6 tds, 4.73 ypc

See the giant drop off?

This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 11:28 am
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:54 am to
The idea is to increase possessions per game and therefore potentially plays per game.

LSU had a ton of short drives last year on LF7 long TDs. We also had a ton of 3-and-outs.
This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32801 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 1:56 pm to
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Henry was the best back in the SEC last year even though he had less YPC than both LF7 and Chubb.


what made him the best?
This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted by NoNameTiger
Mandeville, LA
Member since Nov 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 3:09 pm to
I think these preseason rankings are stupid.

That said, LSUs and Georgia's back fields are easily #1a and 1b and I can't find too much fault in someone putting UGAs tandem slightly ahead of LSU.

That said, I would put LSU first just for the simple fact that BOTH of Georgia's guys are coming off injury.
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
954 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 5:32 pm to
Most people on here would have laughed if any LSU fan said that Beckham was the best WR in the country when he was in college. Good- sure. The best? laughable. Now most would think it would be laughable if Beckham wasn't in the discussion for elite WR in the NFL.

(I actually don't know if I would have said Beckham was the best WR in college when he was in college.)

With that said, being a LSU fan with some ability to spot talent, it was clear Beckham and Landry were special.

Guice is, without a doubt, special. I don't watch enough Georgia games to have as strong of an opinion about how good Chubb or Michel are, but I can't imagine a backfield being better than one in which Guice is 2nd string.

Therefore, I think LSU is easily > UGA this year in the backfield. I'm not knocking Chubb or Michel. Guice is THAT good.


This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 5:40 pm
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 5:45 pm to
LF would be laid up just like Chubb on that play on UT s horrible turf.

Was a fluke unavoidable play...

Just hope both stay healthy.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3494 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 5:55 pm to
So you're just another LSU dick that's glad Chubb got hurt. Got it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32801 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 9:03 pm to
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Was a fluke unavoidable play...


Pretty much. That turf is dangerous to those with elite balance.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68435 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

Miles' playcalling is holding lf back 
-we play in the harder division (nevermind they had 5 common opponents and NC absolutely dominated the stats in all 5 meetings) 
-We had brandon harris 
-Defenses were keying in more on lf than they were on chubb 
-LF has more potential and will be better in the nfl
-etc etc etc 


LF was sharing the load his freshmen season. When you are getting less than 10 carries in some games, yeah your stats aren't going to be as good.

I usually just chalk this up to uga fans still being butt hurt about 03 and 07.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32801 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 11:50 pm to
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sharing the load his freshmen season. When you are getting less than 10 carries in some games, yeah your stats aren't going to be as good.


Chubb only averaged 2 more cpg. That's not a big deal in a per carry comparison.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42471 posts
Posted on 7/31/16 at 6:09 am to
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LF went for 200+ in each of the last three games of the year including a 5 TD performance in the bowl game


Fournette's performances against Ole Miss and A&M were impressive for sure. Texas Tech... well, I think I could have run for 200+ against them last year
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39105 posts
Posted on 7/31/16 at 10:45 am to
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I'm taking a healthy Chubb over Fournette everyday of the week.


If Chubb stays healthy all year, and Fournette has some nagging injuries, the NFL will still take Fournette before Chubb. This is not a clise call.

Chubb is very good and will have a great NFL career. Fournette is substantially better.
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