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re: UPDATE: 50 dead 53 injured after mass shooting at Orlando gay club
Posted on 6/12/16 at 5:55 pm to JustGetItRight
Posted on 6/12/16 at 5:55 pm to JustGetItRight
OP should be changed to another Muslim scumbag commits mass murder.
I'm a democrat and I can't stand our side when it comes to this shite.
I'm a democrat and I can't stand our side when it comes to this shite.
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Posted on 6/12/16 at 6:20 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Trump's statement fricking nailed it
And the liberal national media will pick and choose parts of it and turn it against him somehow. Failing to do that, they will just not say much about it at all.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 6:43 pm to TT9
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His dad should be "dealt with".
Yes. And despite his statement, it would appear that dear old dad is Taliban.
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The father of the Orlando nightclub gunman has a television show on Payam-e-Afghan, a California-based channel that supports ethnic solidarity with the Afghan Taliban, which are mostly Pashtun. Viewers from Pashtun communities in the United States regularly call in to espouse support for Pashtun domination of Afghanistan over the nation's minorities, including Hazaras, Tajiks and Uzbeks. Seddique Mateen's "Durand Jirga Show" has an anti-Pakistan slant. The name of the show references the Durand line, the long-disputed border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. A former Afghan official said Seddique Mateen's show also expresses sympathy for the Taliban, complains about foreigners in Afghanistan and criticizes U.S. actions there. The official spoke only on condition of anonymity because he did not want to be linked to coverage of the shooting.
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It really is true that the apple rarely falls very far from the tree.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:01 pm to JustGetItRight
This is one Veteran who would saddle up in a second behind a true Leader.
frick The Mud People. I hope my boot is on your throat soon...
frick The Mud People. I hope my boot is on your throat soon...
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:16 pm to Tropic Lightning
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This is one Veteran who would saddle up in a second behind a true Leader.
frick The Mud People. I hope my boot is on your throat soon...
I agree with you. We should be at war with these groups, but the inherent problem with that is our occupation and killing of Muslims in the Middle East is in direct correlation with the rise of these terrorists groups that perpetrate violence in our land.
So, we kill them. The next group pops up, they kill us. Rinse. Lather. Repeat
We should have never gotten involved in the first place, but here we are locked into this viscous cycle that will never end.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:20 pm to JesusQuintana
You're right. We created this monster and have only ourselves to blame.
But....time to take out the trash. I'm talking biblical retribution. I figure we nuke Mecca and roll heavy over Rihad maybe The Mud People will get the picture.
But....time to take out the trash. I'm talking biblical retribution. I figure we nuke Mecca and roll heavy over Rihad maybe The Mud People will get the picture.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:26 pm to Alahunter
Allowing guns in bars is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Alcohol fueled tempers with guns is a recipe for bigger disaster. Not to even mention "good guys with guns" in a bar, also drunk, trying to ascertain where the bad guy with a gun might be. their ring of in a crowded, dark bar, and it's chaos.
You gun people are fricking mental.
You gun people are fricking mental.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:27 pm to JesusQuintana
You just can't stand idle by and let them continue to kill our people. Same goes for over in UK.
At some point, enough is enough. At some point, even the politically correct arse holes in the country will be fed up. Yesterday it was a California business meeting...today it was an all gay club...what will we wait for, a daycare massacre by these idiots that will get everyone on board to just start blowing those arse holes up?
At this point, I think there is an issue with the way the FBI investigates people. This is twice now. Yet, this administration tells me that there is a very strict vetting policy on letting refugees in this country from the middle east? No thanks.
Sure, the war will likely last forever with the middle east...but if nothing is done, the america that we know will be forever changed. You will become scared to go to large events such as football games...which is what they want.
Even more of a problem was Obama pulling troops out of those areas so fast when he took office, that we left so many of our weapons and vehicles over there for them. I think that is the part that pisses me off the most. He can yap about gun control here all he wants, but his dumb arse left a buffet of military weapons and vehicles there for their picking.
At some point, enough is enough. At some point, even the politically correct arse holes in the country will be fed up. Yesterday it was a California business meeting...today it was an all gay club...what will we wait for, a daycare massacre by these idiots that will get everyone on board to just start blowing those arse holes up?
At this point, I think there is an issue with the way the FBI investigates people. This is twice now. Yet, this administration tells me that there is a very strict vetting policy on letting refugees in this country from the middle east? No thanks.
Sure, the war will likely last forever with the middle east...but if nothing is done, the america that we know will be forever changed. You will become scared to go to large events such as football games...which is what they want.
Even more of a problem was Obama pulling troops out of those areas so fast when he took office, that we left so many of our weapons and vehicles over there for them. I think that is the part that pisses me off the most. He can yap about gun control here all he wants, but his dumb arse left a buffet of military weapons and vehicles there for their picking.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:29 pm to Tropic Lightning
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....time to take out the trash. I'm talking biblical retribution
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:31 pm to Tropic Lightning
quote:another one.
I'm talking biblical retribution.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:31 pm to The Spleen
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Allowing guns in bars is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Alcohol fueled tempers with guns is a recipe for bigger disaster. Not to even mention "good guys with guns" in a bar, also drunk, trying to ascertain where the bad guy with a gun might be. their ring of in a crowded, dark bar, and it's chaos. You gun people are fricking mental
You didn't address the question posed. How long do you think it'd take lawful gun owners to approach the death and injured that took place in minutes, at a gun free bar? It was a simple, straitforward question and not once did I advocate guns in bars. Just wondering how long it would take for the equivalent destruction to occur.
eta- How many have been killed where they are allowed on college campuses now.. or in schools that have allowed teachers to carry? I seem to recall left leaning folks crying about how it would result in innocents being shot accidentally. How's that panned out so far?
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Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:36 pm to JesusQuintana
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I agree with you. We should be at war with these groups, but the inherent problem with that is our occupation and killing of Muslims in the Middle East is in direct correlation with the rise of these terrorists groups that perpetrate violence in our land.
That is just not true. What's changed is that the shrinking of the globe since the end of WW 2 from both transportation and communication - particularly communication - has finally given these groups the ability to penetrate our shores.
That have always gone after us when given the opportunity. The very first ocean-going warships purpose built for the US Navy were constructed specifically to address attacks at sea by middle eastern Muslim terrorists.
Those oceans that once protected us can now be crossed instantly with the click of a mouse. Throw in that the European colonial governments that served to provide some stability and stomp troublemakers are long gone and you have a recipie that lets the evil that has always been there flourish.
Our adventures don't help, but they'd be doing the same things regardless. They always have.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:44 pm to The Spleen
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Allowing guns in bars is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Alcohol fueled tempers with guns is a recipe for bigger disaster. Not to even mention "good guys with guns" in a bar, also drunk, trying to ascertain where the bad guy with a gun might be. their ring of in a crowded, dark bar, and it's chaos.
While I agree that alcohol and guns are a very, very bad mix Georgia, Tennessee, Arizona, and Virginia do allow bar patrons to be armed and the predicted blood in the streets scenario hasn't happened in those states.
I would still draw the line at bars, but even if it were allowed in terms of violence numbers pretty much nothing would change at all.
You are, however, completely right about the tactical situation. Unless someone got lucky, trying to stop a shooter in a dark nightclub would probably be an exercise in futility.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:49 pm to JustGetItRight
Laws or no laws...if someone wants to bring a gun to a bar, a sign isn't going to stop them. Just as a sign will not stop someone from bringing a gun to schools, etc.
Bad people do bad things. They break the law. You can write 1 million laws on gun control and in the end, it hurts law abiding citizens more than the criminal. You know, because they are criminals.
Every redneck bar in the south has, at one point or another, been full of pocket knives, guns, etc. Over the course of my lifetime, this may be the first mass shooting I can remember in a club or a bar type setting.
Bottom line is this, IMO...we can argue over gun control all we want...but at the end of the day, a criminal is going to find a way to get a gun. Legally or not.That is why they are criminals. As a law abiding citizen, I want to continue to have the right to have a gun in all of my vehicles and those in my home for protection. Each day, this world gets crazier and crazier.
Bad people do bad things. They break the law. You can write 1 million laws on gun control and in the end, it hurts law abiding citizens more than the criminal. You know, because they are criminals.
Every redneck bar in the south has, at one point or another, been full of pocket knives, guns, etc. Over the course of my lifetime, this may be the first mass shooting I can remember in a club or a bar type setting.
Bottom line is this, IMO...we can argue over gun control all we want...but at the end of the day, a criminal is going to find a way to get a gun. Legally or not.That is why they are criminals. As a law abiding citizen, I want to continue to have the right to have a gun in all of my vehicles and those in my home for protection. Each day, this world gets crazier and crazier.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:00 pm to Alahunter
There was a security guard there with a gun, and the guy still killed 50 people. But maybe one isn't enough in your hypothetical. So how many good guys with guns is necessary? How do we determine who the good guys with guns are and who the bad gguy with guns are, especially when alcohol is added to the mix.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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He's currently on a speech tour titled "The Dangerous F@ggot" tour
He's fabulous. Really. My favorite f@g in the world.
When he speaks at colleges people violently protest a gay man because hes's not liberal.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:27 pm to The Spleen
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There was a security guard there with a gun, and the guy still killed 50 people.
Was he dressed as a security guard? Was he targeted first?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:34 pm to PrivatePublic
Also, was the security guard armed? A lot of places have "security", and they are nothing more than roided up gorillas. Or 400 lb fat folk.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 8:43 pm to Alahunter
Reports say he was an off duty officer that engaged the guy with gunfire but the shooter retreated back into the masses.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 9:28 pm to JustGetItRight
Imagine if the masses weren't herded and slaughtered like sheep, but a few had been armed and he had nowhere to retreat to.
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