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re: UPDATE: 50 dead 53 injured after mass shooting at Orlando gay club
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:42 pm to CockCommander
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:42 pm to CockCommander
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He made a statement about radical christians not killing people.
That's not what I said
This is what I said...
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Such a huge difference between radical Christians and radical Islam. Radical Christians kill themselves mostly or protest soldiers deaths.
So don't twist my words...
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Im not making a statement calling all Christians violent. Im simply pointing out that all radicals are violent.
Give me a list over the last 30 years comparing radical Christian mass killings worldwide, to that of radical Muslims.
I'll wait...
This post was edited on 6/12/16 at 1:27 pm
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Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:42 pm to Vols&Shaft83
We have all seen the success those gun laws had in Chicago and the rest of the country should follow suit
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:43 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Yup, all gun free zones should now be gun required zones. That should do it.
MOAR GUNS!
MOAR GUNS!
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:43 pm to JesusQuintana
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No, what's retarded is the assertion that more guns=less gun violence Our wide open gun culture has worked so well up to this point. Our gun murder rate is equivalent to African countries torn by civil war. I'm sure though, there is no correlation to the sheer amount of guns we have in this country or how easy it is for just about anyone to get anything they want. But I get it, you need your AR 15 because if you didn't have it...well, I don't know, but got damnit you need it.
At least you didn't throw out some also fake statistical numbers with that spewing load of shite.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:43 pm to JesusQuintana
quote:especially at places that serve alcohol.
MOAR GUNS!
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:45 pm to Alahunter
Would you like the numbers? I could give them to you, but it wouldn't matter anyway because..."muh guns"
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:48 pm to JesusQuintana
Nah, I won't have you go through the trouble of making things up and ignoring socio economic factors and leading perpetrators of crime and religious cult attacks. I mean.. who want's to actually discuss the causes when you can blame sentient firearms that possess people in their vicinity.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:50 pm to Alahunter
Hers the good news for you gun zealots though.
The NRA will spin this as a reason for relaxed gun laws, more guns, easier access, less safety checks and also convince you all that "Obummer is after your gawl darn second amendment rights"....which of course you will all mindlessly digest and gun and ammo sales will spike significantly.
Every time people get killed by a gun the gun industry benefits. No way back from this madness of course, but at least you get to bolster your armory.
The NRA will spin this as a reason for relaxed gun laws, more guns, easier access, less safety checks and also convince you all that "Obummer is after your gawl darn second amendment rights"....which of course you will all mindlessly digest and gun and ammo sales will spike significantly.
Every time people get killed by a gun the gun industry benefits. No way back from this madness of course, but at least you get to bolster your armory.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:51 pm to JesusQuintana
There were police on site at the gay club when shooting started.
That should give you a good idea of how useful the government is when it comes to protecting anyone.
And ya, I'll keep "muh guns" and you are welcome to be a victim.
That should give you a good idea of how useful the government is when it comes to protecting anyone.
And ya, I'll keep "muh guns" and you are welcome to be a victim.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:58 pm to JesusQuintana
Look...I don't get into the whole gun debate on here or in real life much, if at all.
Here is the deal...I own guns and I'll never willingly give them up. I'm a good person and not off my rocker. Good people have a right to have their guns. Bad people, no matter what law you have in place, are going to always have guns. California has strict laws and the arrest moments ago again proves that gun laws don't matter.
A lot of these shootings do happen in supposed "gun free" zones. Now I'm not saying that every college student needs a gun, or every elementary teacher needs a gun. I do think however, that schools should be able to pick certain teachers and do an extensive health check on them, and then arm them. Or, pay for security to be armed at all times during school hours.
Today though, falls right in line with what extreme Islamists want. They want fear. They want Americans to constantly be looking over their shoulders.
They're bringing the fight to us, as our current administration sits on their hands and does nothing. I'm sure Obama will center some speech today around the need for gun control. Gun control isn't the problem with these acts. Open borders, the ability for people in our country to align with ISIS, is the problem.
Here is the deal...I own guns and I'll never willingly give them up. I'm a good person and not off my rocker. Good people have a right to have their guns. Bad people, no matter what law you have in place, are going to always have guns. California has strict laws and the arrest moments ago again proves that gun laws don't matter.
A lot of these shootings do happen in supposed "gun free" zones. Now I'm not saying that every college student needs a gun, or every elementary teacher needs a gun. I do think however, that schools should be able to pick certain teachers and do an extensive health check on them, and then arm them. Or, pay for security to be armed at all times during school hours.
Today though, falls right in line with what extreme Islamists want. They want fear. They want Americans to constantly be looking over their shoulders.
They're bringing the fight to us, as our current administration sits on their hands and does nothing. I'm sure Obama will center some speech today around the need for gun control. Gun control isn't the problem with these acts. Open borders, the ability for people in our country to align with ISIS, is the problem.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:02 pm to Alahunter
Ah yes, the socio economic factors that are only inherent to America. After all, it's not like our murder rate dwarfs that of nearly every other first world country in the world.
And of course, let's obsolve the instruments designed to efficiently and quickly kill when examining killings. How could they possibly have anything to do with it. Bad people are bad and they could just as easily pull of mass killings with a hatchet. Those things are sharp!
Of course though, if we don't allow every man women and child to purchase military grade weaponry from the local Walmart they'll just find Dave on the street corner and get them. Everybody knows a Dave.
The only way we will put an end to this insane amount of gun violence in this country is to flood the country with more guns, and make accessing them easier for anyone who wants one. It's proven to be effective already.
And of course, let's obsolve the instruments designed to efficiently and quickly kill when examining killings. How could they possibly have anything to do with it. Bad people are bad and they could just as easily pull of mass killings with a hatchet. Those things are sharp!
Of course though, if we don't allow every man women and child to purchase military grade weaponry from the local Walmart they'll just find Dave on the street corner and get them. Everybody knows a Dave.
The only way we will put an end to this insane amount of gun violence in this country is to flood the country with more guns, and make accessing them easier for anyone who wants one. It's proven to be effective already.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:03 pm to JesusQuintana
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The only way we will put an end to this insane amount of gun violence in this country is to flood the country with more guns, and make accessing them easier for anyone who wants one. It's proven to be effective already.
Silly boy. Hasn't today shown that your way of inviting in and loving those that hate is really the way to peace? And effective where? Chicago?
Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 253
Shot & Wounded: 1421
Total Shot: 1674
Total Homicides: 284
This post was edited on 6/12/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:04 pm to Hawgeye
And right on cue...Obama mentions gun control and still no mention of a terrorist problem or a problem with radicalism.
Sigh...
Sigh...
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:05 pm to Hawgeye
This event, and all the other recent ones, can't be pared down to just one issue. We have a problem with terrorism, we have a problem with guns, we have a problem with mental health, we have a problem with hatred, we have a problem with a Congress seemingly unwillingly to address much of it in any meaningful manner. Everyone tried to politicize them to further their argument, whatever argument that might be. Nothing gets done except some enough thoughts and prayers, and we wait for the next one to happen and hope it didn't happen to us or someone we know and love.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:07 pm to Hawgeye
The first half of his speech was about terrorism.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:07 pm to JesusQuintana
Physician malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the USA.
More people die from taking their prescribed opiates as prescribed than by all firearm deaths.
Are you at least as hysterical about doctors and pharmacist?
More people die from taking their prescribed opiates as prescribed than by all firearm deaths.
Are you at least as hysterical about doctors and pharmacist?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:08 pm to Hawgeye
In 200 years, when the caliphate of America is all but solidified and the small resistance is on the verge of being wiped out, they will write in their history books that the current presidency helped shape the future more than any other.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:12 pm to PrivatePublic
America at the moment is like a fat whore in a brothel...doesn't want to leave the room because of the judgement that might be made once outside...needs to stay in the room in order to be fricked...lays there and takes it in the arse because it is the right thing to do for her sake...cleans herself up and just lies and waits for the next fricking.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:15 pm to PrivatePublic
Every president over the last 50 years had helped shape it. These things don't always happen in a vacuum.
Were we worried about our immigration policy in 1986 when this guy's parent emigrated here from Afghanistan?
Were we worried about our immigration policy in 1986 when this guy's parent emigrated here from Afghanistan?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:18 pm to The Spleen
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Were we worried about our immigration policy in 1986 when this guy's parent emigrated here from Afghanistan?
Interesting point.
Have an up vote.
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