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Texas A&M
Penn St.
Ole Miss
ASU
UCLA :dude:

Now your talking! See you on Turkey Day and by the way are you coming to the game?

Here is the main difference besides Aggies have more NC in other sports but her is the money factor
Texas (System-wide) - $14 billion [40]
Texas A&M (System-wide) - $5.738 billion
Kansas - $1 billion
Missouri - $974.9 million
Oklahoma - $968.4 million

Just mens Football,Basketball and Baseball?

During the last 39 meetings (from 1972—when NCAA introduced scholarship limitations—to the present), the series is even at 19-20. The Aggies best years in recent times were from 1984 to 1994 when the Aggies won 10 out of 11 games.

LSU record vs Texas
LSU is (7-9-1) against Texas

Do your homework! Aggie coaches did not hand out cash. They got put on probation for boosters paying them not the coaches. If you really believe Tx did not also cheat during the 80's you must be under 21! I am sorry but have to vent" 80% of all BCS schools cheat. Mostly boosters but honestly the SEC is the worst!Also 5 years ago Tx was caled Pen U. 30 0n 30 Pony Express is a great show

Lots of outrage! Our D/C who we held in high esteem got out coached.Gundy schooled us with no huddle up tempo 3rd Qtr. We never thought we could run the table this year.So yes the loss hurts but its not the end of our season. Next week will show what we are made of.We will beat Arky this year! Majority predicted 1-2 close L this year. Have some great position talent but not as deep as LSU,Bama or OU. Now the problem will be if we get bumped by BU,ISU or Tech.Then Mr.Pro Sherm needs to go. I still think no matter what our record we will crush Tex this year making it 4 out of last 6

Part 2

The second driver of the UT hatred was cultural — Vietnam, essentially. My Dad was at A&M in the late 60’s, when it was far more Muskogee than it was San Francisco. To him, the A&M/UT divide was the difference between hippies and military men, big town liberal sensibilities and small town patriotism, the idle class and the working class, urban and rural. For someone coming from small-town Texas, with no draft deferment on the horizon, Austin and its counter-culture were a terrifying other. There are plenty of exceptions to these generalizations and I mean no offense, but I think it’s important to understand how other folks perceive things. For my Dad and Grandfather, A&M was old, hard-working America and UT was hedonistic, good-timing, draft-dodging new America.


Jackie Sherrill and the Boys

For my Dad and Grandfather, the Jackie Sherrill-era Aggies changed everything. Finally, for the first time since the beginning of WWII, A&M had a football program with a national profile. Those teams, the vaunted “Wrecking Crews,” punched people in the mouth and ran down their throats. Meanwhile, UT was adrift in the wilderness, cycling through coaches and still paying some of the tab it ran up as one of the last major programs to embrace African-American athletes. To quote a wonderful line from “Sleep Enough to Dream, an old True Believers song, from the Aggies’ perspective, “the books were balanced, for a little awhile.”

“Sleep Enough to Dream” by the True Believers, featuring Jon Dee Graham and the Escovedo brothers

But of course Sherrill was cheating. And of course, he got caught. And UT finally got back on track, hiring a coach who completely resurrected the program and its image. A guy who figured out how to communicate with recruits and their parents. Mack Brown. A&M returned to the bottom of the conference.

When I decided to go to UT no one in my family was all that surprised. After all, I was a long-haired kid who played soccer and wrote for fun. But I started my first year in Austin with the serious belief, ingrained in me since birth, that UT and A&M were death-enemies, polar opposites, defined by their opposition to one another. What I found surprised me – from a UT perspective, the OU game was HUGE, while the A&M game was slightly less interesting than the Tech game, albeit with more history. Older Longhorn fans understood the roots of the rivalry, but people my age, in their mid-30s, really didn’t.

The thing is, A&M has always defined itself as “not UT.” This made sense to the guys from my Dad’s and Grandfather’s eras. UT had long ago stopped defining itself as anything other than what it is: UT. The difference in these self-definitions persists to today, when A&M is a major research university with students from all over the state, similar in many ways to what UT always was. That’s the thing that no current Aggie or Longhorn seems to be able to understand. They are not what they were. And we really do not care as much. Our historical differences have shrunk dramatically, but the Aggies are still defining themselves as not being fast-talking, hip and cool, congenitally rich, city-slickers from Austin. Younger UT fans do not understand the real, old historical difference, or the pride that the Aggies feel in being opposed to what they perceive UT standing for. Aggies do not understand that the most visceral hatred always belongs to the outsiders; UT is not now, and never has been, an outsider. It’s a culture war, played by proxies.

These are the things out of which historical rivalries are built! Real Madrid is for the Francoists, Barcelona for the Catalan separatists. Celtic is a Catholic squad, Rangers is Protestant. Man United is the posh club, Man City is the working man’s club. Boca Jrs. is the working class immigrant team, River Plate is nicknamed the “Millionarios.” These things matter. They make sports matter

This Thread has lots of Ole Miss and Miss State has the most hostile crowds in the SEC! Is this true? I know TT is the most redneckish/trashy crowds in the Big 12. Is this the same in the SEC with both Miss schools?

Tech is a bunch of Redneck West TX rejects. They did Hire a super coach in Leach who took 2-3 star recruits and molded them into his system. Credit given when credit due! T.T is a steady coach but without greenbacks thrown at recruits it will be hard to lure anyone to Lubbock! 7-8hr road trip for in state conference games! NOT!Plus a Tech degree is considered just as good has a ITT tech degree.