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That person experiences poverty that you would never want to experience
How many of those people are experiencing self inflicted wounds?

Temporary help? Sure. But we have multiple generations of people who subsist off of the govt. You should not be in favor of that.
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Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750
He also didn't take the paycheck allocated to the president. So he gave back way more than he owed on that income

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He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made
He has been publicly honest about the fact that he took advantage of what the tax code allowed, which is what this whole discussion is about. People like him are being taxed through the roof in other ways. Those income tax deductions don't even come close to the rest. Besides, this point isn't relevant. The top earners in america are paying nearly all of the income tax being collected by the govt. The rich are funding the poor through the govt so the establishment can stay in power. It's a massive grift. No one should be ok with this
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Both parties heavily rely on their entitlements
The discussion isn't about political parties. It's about people, as in individuals

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one wants to help people who already have money and businesses ensure they keep it
Excellent. Exactly as it should be. People should be able to keep their own money

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the other wants to protect the most vulnerable amongst us
One problem with this thinking is that it's enablement. Many people believe the wrong thing to do is for the govt to keep stepping in and enabling people to continue to be "vulnerable." Another problem is that it ignores that many of these people are vulnerable by their own choice. Another problem is that the political establishment has decided that in order to buy their vote, many people who aren't vulnerable have been included in that category. No one should be in favor of this

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they're both just clamoring for their supporters to get more handouts
People and businesses keeping their own money is not a "handout"
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The only thing to "get wrong" is the interpretation of what primitives wrote thousands of years ago
Curious, did they record something false in the Bible?

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If Christianity wasn't so malleable, it would've died off centuries ago
And yet countless Christians live according to the same doctrines that are explained in the Bible. Do some deviate? Absolutely. But I bet you don't get along with every other OSU fan and that disagreement in no way has anything to do with what happened on the field. Moreover, many people don't perceive the difference between primary issues vs secondary or tertiary issues. They see the distinctions and assume Christianity is false.
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Here is a video that explains the scriptural evidence for Peter's primacy
I responded to the notion of Peter's "primacy" by referring to Acts and how Peter deferred executive functions to others which is not at all what the pope does. Peter did so in the outworking of Matthew 20:20-28, which was inexplicably cited in the video as justification for Catholicism but actually undermines it. Jesus said that anyone who wants to be first should be last. The pope neither acts like the last nor does the church treat him that way, the way that Peter acted when he devoted himself to prayer and preaching and service, just as Jesus said.
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During confession the Priest is their to listen and guide you and reassure you that your sins are forgiven
And this is yet another example of the duplicity. Catholics will on one hand swear up and down that they don't treat the pope like the dictator, don't worship idols, don't worship Mary but then in reality do just those things.

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Why do protestants give testimony and stand up and ask forgiveness of their church members?
Because the bible says to? Matthew 18:15-17
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Why should we believe what the Moody Handbook of Theology says?
Is the information incorrect?

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There are plenty of references in the Early Church to the authority of Peter and his successors
Peter wasn't even the head of the church in Jerusalem. He ostensibly appointed James as the leader. Peter was not a "pope." Acts clearly says that Peter deferred leadership of executive matters to others while he and the disciples continued to pray and preach the Gospel. That is not at all what the current pope looks like nor what the Catholic church has ever operated like.
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They are men just like anyone else
I wonder if you realize you just destroyed the Catholic church but, this does illuminate the duplicity of Catholics in regards to their perspective on the leadership. The church does not treat the Pope like he's just a regular person. If he's just a man, then why should anyone elevate what he says for interpretation or praxis over what anyone else thinks? In reality, what he says goes for everyone. If he doesn't like the way you part your hair, you can be excommunicated and unable to particpate in worship.

If the Pope is just a regular human, then he is not needed to be the dictator of the entire Christian congregation. Nothing in the bible suggests anything like a pope. What is mentioned are presbuteros, episkopos and diakonos. Those offices look nothing like the Catholic institutional structure.
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Why did Jesus choose a bunch of disciples and apostles to spread His message?
Because he wasn't going to be here permanently

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Why didn't Jesus just go around by Himself preaching?
He did

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Why did Jesus found His Church on Earth, and then appoint the leaders of that Church?
He didn't appoint leaders of the Church.

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Why didn't Jesus just leave us with the Bible before He ascended to Heaven?
He already had the "bible," the Torah. His teachings expanded on what people were getting wrong about those doctrines.

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Jesus could have dropped the complete Bible on us and said, "Here it is. It's all there. This is the whole Word of God."
He essentially did that through his ministry and teachings. He left us with everything we need to know about having a relationship with God and about how to be redeemed.

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Jesus left a Church
No he most certainly did not, not in the sense you are describing. Jesus was adamantly opposed to the "church" of his day and worked very hard to tear down the scaffolding that had been built up.

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You want to seek God outside of the Church that He told you to join?
The reformers were Catholics and were very upset about this church you are advocating. They went to their deaths defending the Gospel against the bastardization that had developed and metastasized
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Protestantism was invented more than Fifteen Centuries after Christ walked the Earth
Protestantism was not "invented." The reformers were trying to purge the Catholic church of sinful behaviors committed by the leadership and of unbibilical teachings/practices. IOW, it was a return to biblical teaching that had existed since the time of Christ. The reformers were not at all trying to leave the Catholic church or start a new branch of Christianity but when the leadership was recalcitrant, people started leaving, rightfully so. The puzzling decisions of the council of Trent cemented the division.

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It's absurd to conclude that Almighty God would withhold Ultimate Truth from us human beings for over 1,500 years, suddenly to reveal Ultimate Truth to a handful of people like Calvin and Zwingli.
That's not at all what happened. People had been complaining about the foibles of the Catholic leadership for many years but the church held all the cards. They could prevent people from being betrothed, own land, have a job, own a business, etc. Not very Christlike behavior. In response to the burgeoning Reformation, the Catholic church devloped a standing army and then started attacking people who dissented, sparking the 30 years' war. Completely unjustifiable
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Questions Protestants Can’t Answer
I'm curious as to what makes you think those questions can't be answered. Any entry level systematic theology explains the topic that was discussed. Have you read Grudem or Erickson?

Perhaps you could elaborate on what you think can't be answered but, those doctrines are definitely well, well known to Protestants and explained quite clearly.

But I see that you probably won't elaborate because you posted the OP and then disappeared.

re: The Covid Clots - Sharryl Atkinson

Posted by TheQuestion on 12/26/23 at 10:29 am
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Do I try and talk them out if it? No.

You know why? Because I mind my own fricking business.
You seem to be obtusely missing the point of the OP. Did you watch the video?

The point is that doctors are having to risk their careers to ask questions that the govt should have been asking from the beginning. The shots were never tested on humans and it was pretty clear from the beginning that there were adverse reactions in a percentage WAY ABOVE what normally would have been allowed. Physicians who pointed this out were ostracized. Despite people speaking out, like Zelensky, the govt continued to lie to people about the virus, not answer questions and push the shots knowing full well from their own VAERS database that there were serious problems. This is in addition to the lying about masks, closing small businesses, mandates, etc.

Add to this the fact that readily available, inexpensive medications were being proven to have positive outcomes but were being thwarted by the govt and the media, seems to point to the fact that big pharma's profits were on the line.

Then, you claim to mind your own business while posting multiple times in a thread of people trying to point out this unbelievable criminality which has results in countless deaths, including kids, and it's really hard to discern your motivation.

If you really mind your own business, then butt out of this thread. Otherwise, what is your point?
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the star finds a way to take his team to a win
Right. He runs up to the booth and calls plays. Then he runs back down and takes on the opponent all by himself. That one player deserves all the credit and all the blame because, well, that's just how it is.

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They lost to the other three good teams they played against
Right. THEY lost.

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And none of those QBs caught the passes they threw, either. So, do we throw out passing yards and passing TD's as a metric?
So if Daniels had the better stats against tougher competition, does that mean he "lifted the offense" and made them better?
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It is factually correct to say that neither played on defense
Exactly! Someone gets it!
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It is factually correct to say you’re an idiot
First, you don't know me. Second, tell me what I said that's wrong

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Jayden Daniels will win the heisman so deal with it
Well, since I've been pointing out that Daniels is the best player, I'm ok with him winning it
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I do not think it means what you think it means
Maybe you're not too bright?

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every single player on LSU's team - has three losses on the season
Factually incorrect.

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if he doesn't win the only reason will be those three losses
Which is, of course, stupid
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you believe a player on a team that doesn't win a single game is Heisman material
Is the award an individual award or a team award?

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flawed logic
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a key cog in the machine such as a QB that can drive a team to victory by his own superlative actions on the field
So the qb can play all 22 positions on every down. I had not heard that.

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Daniels failed to lift his team up and overcome the poor defense of lsu on 3 separate occasions. That's 3 failures
Dang. And to think people like you are allowed to vote in elections.

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Cam Newton didn't have 3 failures; he was a winner. Cam Newton, and most other Heisman winners, have been an integral reason for the success of their teams
Now that you mention it, I do remember Cam playing all 22 positions on every snap. That was something.
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SEC was garbage this year
Which Heisman finalist played a tougher schedule? I'll wait while you google that
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Did you happen to notice how Daniels performed in the loses?
I did. It seems to me that some people are not being objective because they just can't stand to see an SEC rival do well. Daniels was clearly, far and away the better player.

SEC fans want to say the SEC is the toughest conference. Daniels had the better numbers in the tougher conference. It's no contest. Trying to smuggle in team accomplishments is childish.