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Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
409 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:39 am to
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I’m not a Ben Shapiro fan whatsoever,never watched him, but it’s weird that Tucker carlsons dad was in the CIA and he actively promotes getting fellows addicted into nicotine slavery


Pretty sure Tucker owns a large majority of ALP, why wouldn’t he promote it?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34446 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:59 am to
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Pretty sure Tucker owns a large majority of ALP, why wouldn’t he promote it?

He did it long before that. Either way, it just seems weird to me to promote vice as a virtue.

Its par for the course for Tucker Carlson though. In 20 years he’ll give a half assed apology and be the biggest critic of nicotine there is. Just like how everything he claims to believe in today on foreign policy, 9/11, Israel, etc etc…he shite on and viciously roasted those of us who believed the exact same thing 20 years ago.

I dont trust that cat at all. High level smarts and next level articulate, but something is way off with him
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34446 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:05 pm to
Also, why do you people spit your gay pouches into the urinal. Its already demeaning enough for some guy or gal to try to make a living cleaning bathrooms and now they have to dig a pube entangled nicotine pouch off the urinal cake?

People that are caught doing that, and also people who dont return their shopping car to the cart corrale deal should be deported to Somalia.
Posted by AlaCowboy46
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2025
355 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:31 pm to
Coffee ground patches? Do they taste like drinking coffee?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89630 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Do they taste like drinking coffee?


not really ha.

Here was the brand I used: LINK
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7426 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 2:25 pm to
I dipped Skoal and Copenahgen from 1983 to 1997. One morning, I was getting ready for church and a doctor on cable news said A) the amount of nicotine in a can of dip equaled something like 2 packs of cigarettes, and B) a smokeless tobacco habit was harder to kick than a powder cocaine habit. At the time I was up to 2 cans of Copenhagen a day. I quit cold turkey that Sunday and found that he was right about the addictiveness. It was over a month before I could get 10 minutes of consecutive work done in a day without severely losing my concentration for long periods of time. Also, I went from 245 to 285 lbs overnight. I craved a dip daily for YEARS following that and to be honest still do to this day every once in a blue moon.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34446 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:16 pm to
Yeah, its a rough go. Nicotine gets its hooks in deep. I can still remember the ache of the withdrawal and it lasted months. I have zero cravings now, but do have a recurring dream a few times a year where i take a dip and i wake up so mad at myself and relieved it was just a dream.

These people on the pouches seem like they just pop a new pouch the second the old one wears out. And just live with one in since theres no spit and you can being doing it without anyone knowing. Theyre gonna be so screwed if they ever decide to quit or some politician makes them illegal

Glad im not 20 years old right now, or i’d 100% be hooked on the strongest ones they make
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26248 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:11 pm to
Nicotine sucks I was addicted at one point, but I can tell you from seeing friends getting too far down the hole, alcohol is far and away worse. Watching a friend have the DTs was enough to keep me at 2-3 drinks max on a Friday night
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
16762 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:19 pm to
I have quit drinking pretty much entirely after watch State go through it rough. These Grizzley nicotine punches are tough to shed. I’m down to only a few a day thank god… compared to 2 cans a day. I do however, chew a lot more gum lol.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
8051 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

I’m not a Ben Shapiro fan whatsoever,never watched him, but it’s weird that Tucker carlsons dad was in the CIA and he actively promotes getting fellows addicted into nicotine slavery

NJF fan tho?
Posted by AlaCowboy46
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2025
355 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:39 pm to
After quitting cigarettes 20 years ago I don't crave them and didn't from the day I quit, but I had help quitting. A stop smoking clinic on Jimmy Carter Blvd in Norcross had a program. A couple hours of psychological counseling, an injection of a mixture of scopolamine and another drug (I can't recall the name,) and some pills to take twice a day for 14 days. The initial injection blocked the nerve endings from sending the nicotine craving to the brain and the pills maintained that block until my body stopped craving the nicotine.
I slept well that night, went to Waffle House in Woodstock near my house, and sat with my former smoke buddies (this was before Waffle House went smoke-free) and didn't crave a smoke. I still smell smoke (my sweetheart and her daughter) both smoke and it doesn't bother me one bit. They don't smoke in the house. Had an open pack in my car and half a carton in the house and finally tossed them a few months later.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
409 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:31 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 6:39 am
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2993 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:28 pm to
Worked in this industry for a few years with FDA applications process after modern nicotine products were required to gain FDA approval. Nicotine itself does not cause health issues(for the most part…everything is bad for you eventually) but the delivery system does. Zyn or other synthetic pouches are less harmful than traditional dip because it does not deteriorate gum lines like a jaw full of Skoal. Any longtime Skoal or Copenhagen users know what I’m talking about and so do their dentist. I cannot speak to oral cancer reductions. Many moist tobacco dippers have an issue with switching to synthetic pouches due to behavioral habits. Even though they get the nicotine fix after years of dipping people get use to a longer experience as opposed to the quick nicotine release of synthetic pouches making it a shorter time to consume the nicotine. Also as disgusting as spitting is, that is part of the behavioral fix.

Vaping is a huge harm reduction vs combustible cigs. While a lot has been made of teen vaping, teen cig usage is almost non existent. In a couple of decades you will rarely see anyone lighting a cigarette.

I quit dipping end of June. Still getting cravings just not as often.

Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13959 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 9:03 am to
I think the Zyn are going to make it even easier to get addicted. Smoking had 50 years of culturally positive marketing. Smoking was normalized and made to be cool, even with all the negatives with it. Dipping you had some limitations on where you could do it or at least how you did it. A lot of people I know who dip have morphed to zyn users primarily. You can do it pretty much anywhere and no spit cup needed. They haven’t shook the nicotine, but they have limited the tradition aspect of it. Yet, at the end of the day, are we just getting ourselves addicted to a substance for the sake of it?
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