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re: WV losing because of quitter Will Grier

Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:50 am to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:50 am to
Leonard Fournette decided to sit half a season to protect his livelihood.

I think his NFL career is going swimmingly.
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 5:27 am to
Is CMR a quitter? Since he actually, quit?
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 11:53 pm
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 6:35 am to
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Is CNR a quitter?

Who is CNR?
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:16 am to
If Richt really didn’t take advantage of all the Bowl practices, then I’d say he did quit.
Posted by TrackDawg
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:20 am to
Murdering unborn babies used to be uncommon, but now it’s common. And nobody blinks an eye at it.

Am I supposed to throw a party or something?

That was never uncommon.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:14 am to
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From an NFL pay standard, they are all equally worthless. There is no dollar difference between losing a minor bowl game and winning a title, which is why the "protecting future livelihood" argument is dumb.


The point is That’s not the only standard. There is a lot of intrinsic value in a championship. Not the same for this game vs Texas.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:39 am to
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There is a lot of intrinsic value in a championship.


Yeah, but you know it's only a matter of time before someone sits out a playoff game, and perhaps even a regular season game. That's technically already happened with Bosa skipping out on OSU. I realize he was coming off an injury, but still, skipping most of the season?

Think about it. Michigan had their 5 best players sitting out of the Peach Bowl. That game might as well not have been played. This is going to get far worse and become more of a problem in the future. If it's just one guy whose a sure fire first round pick, then it's not much of an issue.

I'm not even referencing Baker's sitting out. I understand why he is.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 10:40 am
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:00 am to
The value is whatever the student athlete places in the game.

The NFL has decided that they all are meaningless. The money will be the money regardless of a bowl or no bowl. Regardless of a full season or half a season.

Showing up for any of the games is the kid deciding the type of person he wants to be.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:27 pm to
Yes, the risk/reward % is all that matters to the player.
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:23 pm to
Which was my point - if it's all about dollars, as soon as you're happy with your draft projection, you should *immediately* stop taking risks at the college level, since, when it comes to NFL pay, all college games are equally worthless.

If it's not all about dollars, then the games have some intrinsic value, so playing them makes sense.
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Member since Sep 2012
5997 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:27 pm to
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There is a lot of intrinsic value in a championship. Not the same for this game vs Texas.


To you, perhaps. Yet there are guys who will be playing in the NFL next year who are playing in bowl games this year. So they put more value on it than you do. Put it this way: for guys going to the NFL, a bowl game may be their final chance to play in a big game. NFL audiences are smaller, and there's only one bowl game in the NFL - and a lot of players never get to it.
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:57 pm to
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If Richt really didn’t take advantage of all the Bowl practices, then I’d say he did quit.


Listening to Chuck Oliver show he says few teams use all 15 practices.

This post was edited on 1/1/19 at 12:32 am
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13940 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:00 am to
Interesting... that must be a new thing then.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39591 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 12:37 pm to
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you, perhaps. Yet there are guys who will be playing in the NFL next year who are playing in bowl games this year. So they put more value on it than you do


This ain’t about me. The players who sit do not place more value on it. That’s the point.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39591 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 12:40 pm to
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not all about dollars, then the games have some intrinsic value, so playing them makes sense.


It’s not all about dollars and not all games have the same value. It’s all about risk/reward ratio.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 1:07 pm to
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If Richt really didn’t take advantage of all the Bowl practices, then I’d say he did quit.


I may be mis-remembering but I thought there was a bowl game when he was here, and he didn't use all the practices.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26029 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 5:04 pm to
Probably the nebraska loss
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5997 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 9:01 pm to
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It’s not all about dollars and not all games have the same value. It’s all about risk/reward ratio.


The problem is that the ratio is 100:0 It's all risk. Remember, the reason given for not playing isn't that they are "protecting their livelihood".
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