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re: WV losing because of quitter Will Grier
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:22 pm to playmakers in space
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:22 pm to playmakers in space
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"you're on the wrong side of history".
My personal favorite way to tell if someone is incapable of having an intelligent discussion.
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:29 pm to RedPants
I think when they get C -unty is a true sign.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:48 pm to gatorhata9
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He’s in New Orleans helping his team get prepared for Texas. Helping the younger guys who are getting those valuable reps in his stead. Yeah, he’s really turning his back on his team.
It’s just a shame he’s not eligible for the Walter Peyton Man of the Year award yet. I mean, with a selfless and noble act such as this, he’d run away with it!
Jfc. Only in the land of the Chowderpop kids can Baker not only be painted as a victim for discontinuing, but now he’s also some kind of selfless and noble hero for it.
S.I.Y.G.’e
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:09 pm to Jefferson Dawg
The next step that is going to happen will be sophomores with high draft grades skipping their junior seasons to prepare for the draft.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:16 pm to VADawg
I I mean, why risk the injury?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:24 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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It’s just a shame he’s not eligible for the Walter Peyton Man of the Year award yet. I mean, with a selfless and noble act such as this, he’d run away with it!
Jfc. Only in the land of the Chowderpop kids can Baker not only be painted as a victim for discontinuing, but now he’s also some kind of selfless and noble hero for it.
S.I.Y.G.’e
Every team needs cheerleaders.
Don't knock it. We are almost in 2019. This will soon be an annual role for the team because everyone is OK with it.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:29 pm to meansonny
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Don't knock it. We are almost in 2019. This will soon be an annual role for the team because everyone is OK with it.
This isn't just a Georgia problem. It's happening all over the country with teams who aren't in the playoff. Agents get in the ears of these guys and encourage this. It started with McCaffrey at Stanford and it isn't going to stop anytime soon.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:32 pm to VADawg
If it is OK and celebrated, we become LSU.
If team first is celebrated, we get closer to bama.
It is up to the team. Who do they want to be?
If team first is celebrated, we get closer to bama.
It is up to the team. Who do they want to be?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:34 pm to meansonny
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If it is OK and celebrated, we become LSU.
If team first is celebrated, we get closer to bama
LSU hasn't been in position to play for a national title since 2011. If they were in the playoff, Greedy Williams would be playing. If we were in the playoff, Baker would be playing.
I'm not saying this mentality should be celebrated, but it is what it is and there's nothing we as fans can do to stop it from happening.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:40 pm to meansonny
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Which one of them quit before the bowl game, again? I don't remember.
Quitting before a season is much bigger than quitting before a bowl game
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:41 pm to VADawg
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LSU hasn't been in position to play for a national title since 2011. If they were in the playoff, Greedy Williams would be playing. If we were in the playoff, Baker would be playing.
College football games mean nothing to the nfl. Zilch. Playoff or not. According to the NFL (and agents), they get paid the same out of a playoff or out of the Liberty Bowl. All they care about is what you can bring to the team.
The value of the college football game is what the athlete (and in numbers, what the team) values it. The NFL money has no value for the college game, so it is up to the kids to label the value. You presume a playoff is valuable. That is up to each individual athlete. But the same can be said for the sugar bowl or Belk bowl. The value is what the athlete/team places in it.
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I'm not saying this mentality should be celebrated, but it is what it is and there's nothing we as fans can do to stop it from happening.
It is a free country. I've never implied that an athlete should take my thoughts and opinions into account. But team leaders should be team leaders. Don't preach one thing and turn on it. Each athlete needs to look their brotherhood in the eye. Be a man. And make their choice.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:44 pm to djsdawg
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Quitting before a season is much bigger than quitting before a bowl game
Leaving for the NFL before a season? I disagree.
Leaving to train (and then hanging around the team instead of training)? That is pretty pathetic.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:48 pm to meansonny
Quitting is quitting... everything else is just details.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:55 pm to Peter Buck
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Quitting is quitting... everything else is just details.
Leaving the team after 3 or 4 years (with a redshirt) for the NFL is not the same as quitting in my opinion. College is to get one ready for a job. There is a point where the job is there.
But there is no NFL job in December or January. No early enrollees in the NFl.
There is a college team with a college game.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:55 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Jfc. Only in the land of the Chowderpop kids can Baker not only be painted as a victim for discontinuing, but now he’s also some kind of selfless and noble hero for it
You’re an impressively thick.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:56 pm to djsdawg
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Quitting before a season is much bigger than quitting before a bowl game
If you complete your junior year and don’t even start the next season how the frick can you quit it? Quitting before a bowl game is literally not finishing the year. The two aren’t even comparable.
Going into the year the coaching staff has a pretty good idea of who’s starting where. So the staff will have had plenty of time to be prepared for any player who left the previous year. But if a player leaves before the last game of a year in which he started all season long it’s hard to fill that spot. Now a backup has to be ready in a few weeks time.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:56 pm to VADawg
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LSU hasn't been in position to play for a national title since 2011. If they were in the playoff, Greedy Williams would be playing. If we were in the playoff, Baker would be playing. I'm not saying this mentality should be celebrated, but it is what it is and there's nothing we as fans can do to stop it from happening.
Seems fair. If we don’t want this to happen, make the playoffs.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:00 pm to FlexDawg
Because you have 4 years to play and you didn’t give it 4 years. Thats quitting without finishing on a grander scale.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:05 pm to gatorhata9
Reasons this game is important
1. You never want to lose to an out of conference team in a bowl game(conference bragging rights)
2. Recruiting
3. Send the seniors out with a win.
4. You should care about losing. Anyone who’s okay with losing is a loser in life. Will Grier should feel like a POS for allowing his team to be beaten down by Syracuse in the manner that they did. But he doesn’t because Will Grier is all that matters.
5. Momentum for the next year
6. Bettering your schools overall bowl record
1. You never want to lose to an out of conference team in a bowl game(conference bragging rights)
2. Recruiting
3. Send the seniors out with a win.
4. You should care about losing. Anyone who’s okay with losing is a loser in life. Will Grier should feel like a POS for allowing his team to be beaten down by Syracuse in the manner that they did. But he doesn’t because Will Grier is all that matters.
5. Momentum for the next year
6. Bettering your schools overall bowl record
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:09 pm to djsdawg
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Message WV losing because of quitter Will Grier by djsdawg Because you have 4 years to play and you didn’t give it 4 years. Thats quitting without finishing on a grander scale.
No you are granted 4 years to play. That doesn’t mean everyone is committed to playing 4 years. Most people have an understanding that certain players aren’t going to play all 4 years. You can’t quit something you never committed to. But there’s no excuse for not finishing the 3rd year that you did commit to. The last game matters just as much as the 1st, 3rd, 7th, etc.
If you commit to years 1-3 then you ought to play every game the coaches want you to play in.
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