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Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:11 pm to
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You are literally reverting to the same behavior as those that trashed Stet.


Let's not forget the hypocrisy as well. Several of the worst of the Shaming Squad didn't have any qualms about calling JT a "puss", "made of glass," "will never see the NFL," "has mental problems," etc. Never saw any concern expressed about his or his family's feelings...

Yep, agree with Griffin on that other thread about there being a few group-think fascist types here.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:22 pm to
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crying all over the board


Odd, I don't remember crying around this board at all. I find this board to be mostly funny (and occasionally informative or interesting as far as when there are actual football discussions). But I've never been emotional about it. I think it's amusing as hell that there are some folks who are so over-invested. I'm an alum myself but there are people here who aren't, who act like they live or die on UGA matters not in their control.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45699 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:23 pm to
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But if you are a college football player and you read DawgRant then you are opening the proverbial Pandora's Box.


Imagine the stuff being sent to him directly on Instagram… not good.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:29 pm to
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Imagine the stuff being sent to him directly on Instagram… not good.


If it's true, that's bad, but wouldn't other players (not to mention coaches) have dealt with that over the years as well?

But regardless, I've never sent him any messages. I haven't booed him. I doubt anyone posting on this forum have done any of those things - if they even occurred. It sounds like the dad is complaining about message boards and such...I mean, stop reading those!
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45699 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:35 pm to
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MVP of the National Championship game. Won it over Will Anderson, Bryce Young, Nakobe Dean, Ringo, etc....

Serviceable.



Fwiw, they do offensive and defensive MVP of bowl games now. Cine won defensive MVP.

But as a fan base, I think there were 3 different types of people:
Stet loyalists
Stet realists
Stet bashers

The loyalists and realists are pretty dang similar, but I think people like yourself were willing to point out Stet’s flaws, while also pointing out his good qualities.

I mean, the guy finished, what, 2nd in the NCAA in YPA only behind Grayson McCall from CCU? With a 29 TD to 7 INT ratio and we were acting like the kid was Reggie Ball. I said this on another board, but I felt like the majority of the fan base looked at Stet’s flaws, and JT’s skills while refusing to do the same thing the other way around.

I thought JT was a better QB, but I also understood why Stet was starting and thought the bashing he took after the SECCG was absurd. It almost made me a complete Stet loyalist because of how dumb I thought the majority of the fan base was acting. Yes, he has his flaws, but he was also a dang solid QB all year for us outside of 2 games (UF and Bama) and even those weren’t terrible.

I know a lot of people were happy to be proven wrong, but it’s bizarre to me that some people are so prideful they’re not even willing to admit it after the guy helped win us our first National Championship in 41 years.

If we want to blame the coaches, that’s fine for me. Blaming players on the other hand, especially a former walk on, for trying his absolute best, and succeeding in winning a National Championship is another thing.

Glad Stet proved so many people wrong.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45699 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:37 pm to
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If it's true, that's bad, but wouldn't other players (not to mention coaches) have dealt with that over the years as well?

But regardless, I've never sent him any messages. I haven't booed him. I doubt anyone posting on this forum have done any of those things - if they even occurred


I’m glad you haven’t seen it, but the stuff college athletes get sent is absurd man. The power of the internet makes people send really mean things. Stetson got booed before the UAB game this year when he was announced as the starter. So he deserves to do whatever he wants and can tell the haters whatever he wants.
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
3004 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:39 pm to
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Imagine the stuff being sent to him directly on Instagram… not good.


I am not justifying any hate Stet received as there is no justifying it. With that said he certainly is not the first, the only or the last to go through this. Wasn't it Terrance Edwards who dropped the pass against Florida? He got death threats. One year the freaking kicker at Boise State got death threats. I know of a Valdosta high school QB that woke up one morning and people had put for sale signs in his yard. There are a holes in every fan base
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Seriously...you can't figure out why context matters?


Context? you mean how our QB performed on the big stage and Young did not? that kind of context?

I'm confused. before the game, y'all argued that Young was great because he performed on the biggest stage and Bennett was trash because he could only beat lesser teams and folded against a team with a pulse. now that the opposite has happened Young is still great and the QB that DID perform on the big stage against a great team is still garbage. That kind of context? Fill me in on the context that you are speaking about.

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the fact that Young is doing all this as a sophomore, etc.




Dude. The National Championship doesn't care what year a player is in. They either perform on the big stage or they don't.

Isn't this right, or is it just because we are talking about a QB you don't like that young now gets a pass and Bennett is still garbage? Enlighten us.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:57 pm to
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The power of the internet makes people send really mean things.


It happened before the internet. But, you are right that it has gotten exponentially worse with the internet because it is all anonymous.

Even back when I played I knew of coaches yards being rolled, midnight phone calls cussing them out, cars being keyed and it goes on and on. it isn't a new phenomenon, unfortunately.

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So he deserves to do whatever he wants and can tell the haters whatever he wants.
This X100.

He has handled it better than i ever would have. What you are saying is absolute truth.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:10 pm to
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The loyalists and realists are pretty dang similar, but I think people like yourself were willing to point out Stet’s flaws, while also pointing out his good qualities.


I tried to, and I appreciate you remembering this and acknowledging it.

Make no mistake. Stet has his problems. He put the ball at risk too many times. His decision making could be suspect.

But he went out there and gave it his all every play and every game. I have nothing but respect for him.

Players have feelings too. I never heard any individual comments when I was on the field....but I knew when people booed. That cut through the crowd noise like a knife.

(In fairness I never heard the home town boos, but can remember the other teams fans boo.

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I thought JT was a better QB,

I don't think anybody should argue this point with you. All things even, I would pick Daniels as my QB 10 out of 10 times. But what some of our own fans failed to realize was....all things were not and are not even.

John Metchie is (probably)a better receiver than McConkey. But Monday night I would have taken McConkey every time over Metchie. Why? because McConkey was available and ready to play. Maybe JT Daniels was, maybe not. But Daniels, it cannot be argued, at least seems to be fragile. Give me the QB that goes out there and gives maximum effort every day of the week. That was Bennett.

To finish....I trust our coaches. The have earned that and they deserve that. They do not deserve to be called incompetent by fans because a decision is made the fans don't like. Believe it or not, the coaches have more information than we do and they know more about football than we do.
(This was not aimed at you, btw, Daegsontop34)

People can criticize and voice their opinion. It's the ones creating farks and gifs and railing on and on (kind of like wht I do sometimes....right now) that get to me. They spend way too much time planning and executing their attacks on our team. They aren't true fans.


JMO.

Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:12 pm to
Would you like for me to hunt for the threads you posted in criticizing Bennett and the names you called him? I am retired and have plenty of time. But I really don't think you want me to embarrass you more......do you?

You and Shock Troop are two of a kind.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:14 pm to
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Fwiw, they do offensive and defensive MVP of bowl games now. Cine won defensive MVP.



I know. but Mitchell played well...Bowers played well....Cook....shoot...the entire offensive line, just about it.
I just lumped it all together. There were plenty of "heroes" Monday night.
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