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re: We ran the ball the whole game and still had 2 ints
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:20 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:20 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
quote:Maybe, or even probably. Who knows? But coaches don't get paid to throw games in hopes that the next season will be better.
Where we will tote a loss with Stetson at QB. Love the story, and he’s a DGD and all, but that’s just a fact.
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:24 pm to FooManChoo
You don’t have to throw a game by letting another qb have a shot for some drives.
It needs to happen, it’s pretty clear.
We had 2 ints in 13 attempts. Doesn’t matter how you feel that the ints happened
It needs to happen, it’s pretty clear.
We had 2 ints in 13 attempts. Doesn’t matter how you feel that the ints happened
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:25 pm to VADawg
quote:Nope, but I don't think anyone on our QB bench can do that this year, either. We're trying to win games. Period.
Do you think Stetson Bennett can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?
quote:OK, then what? "Do you think D'Wan Mathis can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?"
If the answer is no, then he needs to be on the bench.
No.
"Do you think JT Daniels can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?"
No.
"Do you think Carson Beck can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?"
No.
So we're left with who will give us the best shot at winning games, and right now, unfortunately the answer is Stetson Bennett IV.
quote:IMO, our best shot at winning a national championship left when Newman quit to preserve his draft stock. This isn't about moral victories, it's about actual victories, and I think we are very limited on our options right now to win games on offense.
This isn't 1990. Beating your rivals and getting to a New Year's Day Florida bowl game is no longer the standard of a good season.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:28 pm to Dawg4Life47
quote:I agree that I think we need to fit in some reps for the other QBs, but when that happens needs to be based on how the coaches feel about our odds at winning.
You don’t have to throw a game by letting another qb have a shot for some drives.
It needs to happen, it’s pretty clear.
quote:Actually it does matter how those INTs happen because that ends up being a reflection of the players. If a QB throws the ball into triple coverage and the ball is picked, that's on the QB. If the QB throws a ball and hits the target in the chest and it bounces off for an INT, that's on the receiver. It matters.
We had 2 ints in 13 attempts. Doesn’t matter how you feel that the ints happened
The tip counts against Bennett but I can't say the same thing for the other one because the WR stopped running.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:29 pm to FooManChoo
I agree with you in principle but Bennett was 9/13 with 2 INT's and had 9 rushing yards. It's hard for me to imagine Mathis or any of the other backup quarterbacks doing any worse. But if it is the case that we don't have anyone better than the walk-on Bennett to lead our offense, then we really are in a sad state of affairs offensively.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:30 pm to FooManChoo
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OK, then what? "Do you think D'Wan Mathis can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?"
No.
"Do you think JT Daniels can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?"
No.
"Do you think Carson Beck can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?"
No.
So we're left with who will give us the best shot at winning games, and right now, unfortunately the answer is Stetson Bennett IV.
So we're in agreement that none of these QBs can beat Alabama or win a national title. In that case, you play the QB with the most upside who might be able to do it next year if they have more experience. That isn't Bennett.
ETA: I think I've figured out the difference between you and me. My mindset is you either win a title or you don't. You view 8-2 as a good season.
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:33 pm to FooManChoo
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OK, then what? "Do you think D'Wan Mathis can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?" No. "Do you think JT Daniels can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?" No. "Do you think Carson Beck can lead the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs to a national championship?" No.
How do we know? One thing we DO know is Stet can’t take us there. We’ve seen a handful of series for one of those guys. There is no way to definitely answer those questions unless we see what they got.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:33 pm to VADawg
Walk me through how that works
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:34 pm to FooManChoo
Then to your point, the ints are exactly how all of the others have happened. Deflected for int and throwing to receivers stopping on routes.
We are having the issues on repeat.
We are having the issues on repeat.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:36 pm to RunLindsayRun
Kirby seems to have more faith in short pseudo game managers instead of the more capable talent.
Fromm was not good in 2018 and 2019 and Stetson is a poor mans Fromm when we don’t have to have that.
Fromm was not good in 2018 and 2019 and Stetson is a poor mans Fromm when we don’t have to have that.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:40 pm to Peter Buck
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Walk me through how that works
How what works? Playing the guy with the most upside to see if it clicks for him? Easy. Take Bennett out of the game and put Mathis or Daniels in.
I guess it depends on what your goals are though. If winning the East and getting trucked by Alabama is good enough, then keep Bennett in there because that's the ceiling with him.
If you want to aim for something bigger, which we should be, then you have to make a QB change because you know Bennett can't beat them on his best day.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:40 pm to Dawg4Life47
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Kirby seems to have more faith in short pseudo game managers instead of the more capable talent.
Fromm was not good in 2018 and 2019 and Stetson is a poor mans Fromm when we don’t have to have that.
Say what?
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:44 pm to VADawg
quote:I don't think they can, no.
So we're in agreement that none of these QBs can beat Alabama or win a national title.
quote:No. We need to win games.
In that case, you play the QB with the most upside who might be able to do it next year if they have more experience. That isn't Bennett.
quote:Not at all. I'm saying that right now we have a shot to win the East, beat our rivals, and compete for some championship hardware even if I don't think we'll win with the offense we're sporting right now. I'm saying that throwing everything away with the hopes that the person we invest some time in at QB this season will help us win it all next season is a bit ridiculous for any coach.
ETA: I think I've figured out the difference between you and me. My mindset is you either win a title or you don't. You view 8-2 as a good season.
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:46 pm to RunLindsayRun
quote:I don't know. No one knows. That's the point. The whole group is a bunch of uknowns to us. CKS and the coaching staff know what they have and they seem to think Bennett gives us the best chance to win football games each week.
How do we know? One thing we DO know is Stet can’t take us there. We’ve seen a handful of series for one of those guys. There is no way to definitely answer those questions unless we see what they got.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:49 pm to Dawg4Life47
quote:I agree, which is why the coaches need to work on all of that.
Then to your point, the ints are exactly how all of the others have happened. Deflected for int and throwing to receivers stopping on routes.
We are having the issues on repeat.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:54 pm to VADawg
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How what works? Playing the guy with the most upside to see if it clicks for him? Easy. Take Bennett out of the game and put Mathis or Daniels in.
I guess it depends on what your goals are though. If winning the East and getting trucked by Alabama is good enough, then keep Bennett in there because that's the ceiling with him.
If you want to aim for something bigger, which we should be, then you have to make a QB change because you know Bennett can't beat them on his best day.
Are those the only alternatives? Im surprised Kirby can’t see such stark options
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:55 pm to FooManChoo
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I'm saying that throwing everything away with the hopes that the person we invest some time in at QB this season will help us win it all next season is a bit ridiculous for any coach.
Having foresight and knowing when to look to the future is actually brilliant coaching and not ridiculous at all. What is ridiculous is doing the same shite over and over knowing it doesn't work.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:55 pm to Peter Buck
So...you think Fromm and Stetson are more than game managers at best??
Posted on 10/31/20 at 3:56 pm to VADawg
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Having foresight and knowing when to look to the future is actually brilliant coaching and not ridiculous at all. What is ridiculous is doing the same shite over and over knowing it doesn't work.
Most on here agree with this, it’s a select few who choose the other side because they enjoy to argue the other side even when they know they are wrong.
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:04 pm to Dawg4Life47
Teams have figured out how to beat stet...stick your arm up in the air.
Dwan has a bad game vs Arkansas but he should get another shot. I’d rather take my chances with JT or Dwan rather than play it safe with Stet because stet isn’t winning any kind of championship.
Dwan has a bad game vs Arkansas but he should get another shot. I’d rather take my chances with JT or Dwan rather than play it safe with Stet because stet isn’t winning any kind of championship.
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