re: Ultimate goals..

Yes it is reasonable to judge someone based on the results of their work....it's called life.

Stop making excuses for these people.

Toddlers figure out quicker than the playoff committee that sticking your finger in a light socket more than once is stupid...

Nope, everyone is judged on there work. It's life, expecting not to be or above reproach is not even reserved for the Pope anymore.

This committee you are talking about allowed Alabama in with out playing in their conference title game and getting a bye, and playing a couple hundred miles from their campus while we flew 2000 miles. Why, because of Alabamas history.

Clemson lost to pitt and Syracuse....

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Nope, everyone is judged on there work. It's life, expecting not to be or above reproach is not even reserved for the Pope anymore.

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What are you talking about? No one has said that the CFPC is above reproach. I'm saying it is unreasonable to condemn the committee for not being able to look into the future.

If the final four selections don't appear to be reasonable prior to the games being played, that's one thing, but you seem to be condemning the committee based on the results of the playoff games, which I believe is completely unreasonable, especially when it's possible for any team to beat any other team.

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This committee you are talking about allowed Alabama in with out playing in their conference title game and getting a bye, and playing a couple hundred miles from their campus while we flew 2000 miles. Why, because of Alabamas history.

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Alabama was a good team and them winning the championship appears to have justified their selection, didn't it? Isn't that what you are arguing for? Judging the selection based on the game results?

Let's take a look at the context:

The week 13 playoff rankings were as follows:

1. Clemson
2. Auburn
3. Oklahoma
4. Wisconsin
5. Alabama
6. Georgia
7. Miami
8. Ohio State

Alabama was actually #1 the week before, but they lost to #6 Auburn, so Bama dropped down to #5. It's was a very reasonable ranking at the time.

Week 14 was the conference championships. #6 UGA beat #2 Auburn; #1 Clemson crushed #7 Miami; and #8 Ohio State beat #4 Wisconsin.

#2 dropped, #7 dropped, and #4 dropped. Alabama did have a gift in that they didn't have to play in their championship game, but they were #5 and two teams "better" than them got beat. Should a 2-loss Ohio State have been in ahead of a 1-loss Alabama? How about Wisconsin who just lost their conference championship? Should a 3-loss Auburn have stayed ahead of Bama even though they lost their conference championship?

I'd argue that Ohio State was the only real option to supplant Alabama, but that would mean that the #5 team stood still while the #8 team jumped 4 spots, including past a 1-loss Alabama.

At best you could say Ohio State should have had a chance over Alabama, but while that is debatable, Alabama did show that they were worthy of the opportunity and that the CFPC got it "right".

But hindsight isn't really the question, it's whether or not the committee made a reasonable decision to select Alabama prior to any games being played. I'd argue that it was very reasonable to allow the #5 team drop down to #4 when the previous #2 and #4 teams lost their games.

It wasn't based on Alabama's previous seasons but their current season as well as the results of the other teams in consideration. If either Auburn and Wisconsin won or Wisconsin and UGA wins their championship games, Alabama is likely left out.

Good losses. can’t reason with you people. We have 6 years of history. You have your feels and your eye tests

You are a slave to the old flawed line of thinking. A close loss by the #4 team to the #1 team supports the ranking of the #4 team. Let herbstriet explain it for you:

“I’m not pushing for an agenda, Im not pushing for Ohio State to make it as a fan, I’m pushing for what’s right, and what’s right is how can you watch Georgia be No. 4 and then go out and play the No. 1-ranked team, and not only hang around with them, but control them, for much of the game until Jalen Hurts decides to write a Hollywood script and come back and knock off Georgia.

“And now we’re supposed to say Georgia, for that performance, you went from No. 4, you’re going backwards? To me, if anything, they should have gone up to No. 3, not backwards to No. 5.”

If you lose, you lose. Sucks for those who win their games to be passed over by those who lose theirs just because it was a close loss.

Not to mention their state legislature requires them to play South Carolina as well, and since the downfall of Spurrier that's been far from a quality matchup. Florida State sucking, VaTech/Miami/etc not being able to get their shite together has made the in-conference schedule a shitshow for them so they just don't have a lot of other games to work with. They still scheduled home/aways with Auburn and Texas A&M of late, so it's not like they're not trying... the rest of the conference schedule just bottoms out their overall SOS.

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you lose, you lose. Sucks for those who win their games to be passed over by those who lose theirs just because it was a close loss.

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Sucks for those who play in tough conferences. The disparity between conferences is just too large to consider them equals.

This auto drop with a loss idea has always been stupid because it’s devoid of critical thought. If you truly want the best/most deserving teams, you can’t use that antiquated line of thought. Who you lose to and how should matter, and Kirk explains it well.

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Oklahoma is better than Baylor.
But they both are pitiful.

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OU did a home and home vs. UCLA.

When that series was scheduled, no one predicted UCLA would be a dumpster fire.