re: UGA Basketball Season Long Thread (19-15, 10-10) // Season Complete

This is definitely a top 5 fire fox post. Your ability to support the program despite your disagreement with its current state is much respected. You sir, are walking down the narrow road and I applaud you for it. Seriously.

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No matter how hard I try, I would never be able to top you in the dumbest post department.

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people that want fox fired are the same people that want to change or colors to piss orange and smokey gr

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you win

I'm trying to make sense of your post. Do you really think everyone disappointed with this years results is purely emotional? Take off those rose colored glasses and consider that Fox underachieved, again in year 8. The criticism is not only fair, its expected. Fox has ZERO tournament wins in 8 years. Fox has had plenty of time to prove his worth but he's maxed out. It's simple, if a CEO doesn't show good results, they get fired.

I completely agree that our program underachieved. When assessing this program, I think it's also fair to say our expectations were slightly high. We all felt the TEAM was good enough to make the tourney but realty was the TEAM wasn't.

Looking forward the team is improving and we have a bright future. I personally believe that the production fox is getting from most of this team legitimately solid and probably beyond what many would be able to get. That being said, recruiting is improving; thus, the team is improving and it's a process. We aren't a one and done program, we are a four year program.

It's also fair to say that Fox inherited a complete mess from a Dennis Feltonand without Gerald Robinson transferring in we wouldn't have been a tourney team the first time we went.

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its been 8 years. just stop

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Agreed.

Look at Northwestern. Laughing stock of the Big 10. Never been to a NCAA Tournament. In comes Chris Collins. 20 wins and a NIT Birth his 3rd year, and a trip to the NCAA Tournament in his 4th year. 23 wins this year(more than Fox has ever had at Georgia), and a 9 seed(higher than Fox has had with Georgia). He's beaten 4 NCAA teams this year(2 ranked), and he isnt doing it with top tier talent.

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It's also fair to say that Fox inherited a complete mess from a Dennis Feltonand without Gerald Robinson transferring in we wouldn't have been a tourney team the first time we went.

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lol what? It's been 8 years dude. If Fox can't clean up Felton's mess with 8 years, then he definitely should be fired.

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May be best if he is kept til the new AD is in place and hires his guy.

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The problem with this is there doesn't seem to be any legs to the replacing McGarity story. If I knew McG was gone after this season and a fresh AD coming in could replace Fox after next year, seems reasonable given how poorly the hires that were in his control (not getting significant credit for Smart - no matter how that pans out, as it was essentially handed down to him) seem to have gone so far.

If you're telling me we've got Ears for 5+ more years, then Fox has had his run, replace and give the next coach 4-5 years to build on where we are.

DD22 seems to have concocted this "everyone hates Fox" story, but I'd say myself and WG are two of the most vocal people on this board that have been proponents of replacing Fox, and *both* of us have talked about the good things he was able to accomplish. I like the guy just fine. He seems like a genuinely good man who takes an interest in his players as people... None of that changes that in 8 years, he's had ample chances to take the next step as a coach and help UGA take the next step as a program and he's failed to do so. This feels eerily familiar to those saying we should keep Richt because he was a good man who helps develop his players into good men. There are plenty of coaches who develop their players as both athletes and people while also performing in the core aspect of their job, which is winning on the court (field, etc).

Zero tournament wins wouldn't be that big of a deal if you felt like you were going to get more chances at the dance going forward, but the reality is a Fox coached team is a bubble team at best, which means *maybe* once every 3-4 years you make it in, but even then it's not a no brainer, seeding will never work out in your favor, and worse still there just won't be enough excitement around the program for us to actually invest in some of the changes that so many people want to point to as excuses for why Fox struggles. I've covered most of this at length in other threads, so I'm not rehashing it all, but if one more person tries to point to the mess that he inherited from Felton... That mess was inherited 8 years ago... that's 2 full cycles of recruits (more if you account for kids leaving early/juco transfers in)... our roster in no way reflects Felton's team, we had 2 all SEC players on the roster and not only did we miss the tournament but we finished in the bottom half of our league.

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well documented that it is not that easy. Esp with our lack of support for basketball

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It's well documented it doesn't take 8 years to build a program at uga. Hugh, tubby, and harrick proved iT.

Hugh was our new coach in 78 had us in the final 4 in 83.

Harrick took over a similar program as fox did and had us a 3 seed in year 3.

Using the dd22 logic you also seem to adhere to, neither should have been possible. Takes 10 years to build a bball program in yalls world.