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Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:42 am to ugasickem
I'm just gonna be pumped to not see our DBs running around like chickens with their heads cut off with piss running down their leg before every down
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:26 am to Damn Good Dawg
quote:But deeprig says this is an urban legend.
I'm just gonna be pumped to not see our DBs running around like chickens with their heads cut off with piss running down their leg before every down
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:57 am to ugasickem
The defense was going to be significantly better either way, 9 starters returning, significantly more experience / learning for the secondary, remember lakatos was already gone, some new hot shite secondary coach would be getting hyped up right now, and there is a significantly easier schedule with no lsu, no taj boyd sammy watkins, no tre mason, the overall national stats that idiots cling to are definitely going to be better. Maybe special teams and offense can not put the defense in as many shitty situations either. Pruitt will get all the credit for something grantham and richt already set in motion. Yall have already admitted you knew 13 was a rebuilding year.
We reloaded well on dl and lb, credit to grantham.
Eta, i hope these new people dont frick up what ko and ctg and cw had going with front seven. Should just ask herrera what they did before and just have him run those corps, maybe get garrison in as a ga.
We reloaded well on dl and lb, credit to grantham.
Eta, i hope these new people dont frick up what ko and ctg and cw had going with front seven. Should just ask herrera what they did before and just have him run those corps, maybe get garrison in as a ga.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 1:52 pm to Damn Good Dawg
The best way to shut me up and prove me wrong would be to post some youtube of it, if it was as common yall say, it shouldnt take more than ten minutes to post a few clips, all the games are on youtube. Please include time to click forward to if necessary, but because it happenned every snap, you probably wont have to include the time.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:33 pm to MSGADawg5988
This is not the best example but watch the whole game I don't have the time to prove you wrong it is inevitable that a bunch of people have seen it and you are just blind to the truth. The players were jumping around crazy not knowing where to go or not understanding the play
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:41 pm to MSGADawg5988
Nope.
At 4:30, LSU puts a guy in motion and Floyd signals to Wilson to cover him, and Wilson does. The receiver cuts inside of Wilson's coverage for a completion. There was no jumping up and down confusion bullshite.
At 9:26, Jarvis Landry runs between the cover 2 zone coverage and Mettenberger hits him in stride, great play for LSU. Again, where is the part where the players are so confused and jumping up and down and waving their hands and looking at the sideline and don't know what's going on?
ETA... edited, sorry for being a dick.
At 4:30, LSU puts a guy in motion and Floyd signals to Wilson to cover him, and Wilson does. The receiver cuts inside of Wilson's coverage for a completion. There was no jumping up and down confusion bullshite.
At 9:26, Jarvis Landry runs between the cover 2 zone coverage and Mettenberger hits him in stride, great play for LSU. Again, where is the part where the players are so confused and jumping up and down and waving their hands and looking at the sideline and don't know what's going on?
ETA... edited, sorry for being a dick.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:43 pm to MSGADawg5988
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This is not the best example but watch the whole game I don't have the time to prove you wrong it is inevitable that a bunch of people have seen it and you are just blind to the truth. The players were jumping around crazy not knowing where to go or not understanding the play
Come on, it happened so often that surely there is some youtube of it... certainly. Right? Surely there is some video of this, because it happened every play, and everybody was so confused all the time.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:53 pm to deeprig9
Come on, it happened so often that surely there is some youtube of it... certainly. Right?
It happened often enough to be a serious problem. Many plays the defense would be standing looking to the sidelines while the offense was over the ball. Or the LBs would be looking at each other as if they didn't know who to cover as the ball was snapped. The defense last season was absolutely horrible. It has to be better if the players at least know what to do.
It happened often enough to be a serious problem. Many plays the defense would be standing looking to the sidelines while the offense was over the ball. Or the LBs would be looking at each other as if they didn't know who to cover as the ball was snapped. The defense last season was absolutely horrible. It has to be better if the players at least know what to do.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:21 pm to AlaCowboy
Right...... just like grantham beat up his high school sweetie and left a whole bunch of bruises that no one ever actually saw.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:26 pm to deeprig9
Coming up on 8 hours since the challenge was issued.
I actually expected, by now, to have someone post a play where the defense got quicksnapped and was caught looking, it happened a couple times... as it did with every defense this year.
But so far, nothing.
Here's a deal... a ban bet...
I bet for every clip someone can post that shows UGA defense 2013 getting hornswaggled looking at the sideline when the ball is snapped, I can post one that shows Alabama's defense getting quicksnapped and off guard.
Any takers?
ETA...
The reason the national scoring defense rankings are shite is because it's total points against your team, even if those points were a kickoff return, interception return, points scored where the defense had jack shite to do with the play. UGA had a few of those last year... also... shitty field position from turnovers and special teams, CTG holds them to a field goal, but the points still go against the defense even though the opponent never got a first down because the ball was turned over on the 30 or a great kick return.
I actually expected, by now, to have someone post a play where the defense got quicksnapped and was caught looking, it happened a couple times... as it did with every defense this year.
But so far, nothing.
Here's a deal... a ban bet...
I bet for every clip someone can post that shows UGA defense 2013 getting hornswaggled looking at the sideline when the ball is snapped, I can post one that shows Alabama's defense getting quicksnapped and off guard.
Any takers?
ETA...
The reason the national scoring defense rankings are shite is because it's total points against your team, even if those points were a kickoff return, interception return, points scored where the defense had jack shite to do with the play. UGA had a few of those last year... also... shitty field position from turnovers and special teams, CTG holds them to a field goal, but the points still go against the defense even though the opponent never got a first down because the ball was turned over on the 30 or a great kick return.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:43 pm to deeprig9
Three words: Third and Grantham
Forget the youtube highlight reel. We've seen it and it's up for interpretation. You see them waving to each other and looking at the sidelines and call it adjustments and pre-play preparation. Doesn't matter what anyone else says.
However, what we do have is several defensive players saying the playbook was huge and/or complicated and that there was so much to learn that the players couldn't play at full speed. That seems to justify what myself and others believe we saw on the field. Or rather, our interpretation of events seem to be justified by quotes by the players, regardless of what was actually happening on the field on youtube.
Forget the youtube highlight reel. We've seen it and it's up for interpretation. You see them waving to each other and looking at the sidelines and call it adjustments and pre-play preparation. Doesn't matter what anyone else says.
However, what we do have is several defensive players saying the playbook was huge and/or complicated and that there was so much to learn that the players couldn't play at full speed. That seems to justify what myself and others believe we saw on the field. Or rather, our interpretation of events seem to be justified by quotes by the players, regardless of what was actually happening on the field on youtube.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:20 pm to FooManChoo
Shawn Williams never had a problem with it. Damien Swann hasn't complained. Boykin didn't have an issue. Bacarri Rambo didn't seem to have a problem with Grantham's scheme.
Why would the 2013 secondary have such a hard time on the 3rd and Longs?
Maybe because 2 of them were true freshmen?
Why would the 2013 secondary have such a hard time on the 3rd and Longs?
Maybe because 2 of them were true freshmen?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:40 pm to deeprig9
The lack of experience excuse only goes so far. With the talent we had, even the younger guys, we should have seen improvement over the course of the season.
Not only did the kids get more game-time experience as the season progressed, but they had more time to study and learn the playbook and work on their fundamentals. There should have been some pretty good improvement from the Clemson game to the Nebraska game, yet our secondary kept making the same mistakes, giving up the same big plays, and giving up the 3rd and long (sometimes very long) conversions.
You'd think at some point the coaching staff (and ultimately Grantham) would be able to teach those players what to do and get improvement out of them.
The problem isn't the complexity of his scheme or playbook, but the complexity in relation to the ability of his players to grasp it. If he has players who can execute everything to perfection, he can be as complex as he wants. But the problem we had is that our players weren't getting it at the level they needed to, and it was negatively affecting their performance on the field.
It is his job to dumb it down to the level necessary for it to be learned and executed, and he failed to adapt and adjust based on his personnel. That was his failure and it is why I'm glad he's gone. A good coach and coordinator knows his strengths and his weaknesses and those of his players and plans accordingly. Grantham forced his inflated playbook on a group of young and inexperienced kids who couldn't execute it and he refused to make the necessary changes to get the best out of his players.
Not only did the kids get more game-time experience as the season progressed, but they had more time to study and learn the playbook and work on their fundamentals. There should have been some pretty good improvement from the Clemson game to the Nebraska game, yet our secondary kept making the same mistakes, giving up the same big plays, and giving up the 3rd and long (sometimes very long) conversions.
You'd think at some point the coaching staff (and ultimately Grantham) would be able to teach those players what to do and get improvement out of them.
The problem isn't the complexity of his scheme or playbook, but the complexity in relation to the ability of his players to grasp it. If he has players who can execute everything to perfection, he can be as complex as he wants. But the problem we had is that our players weren't getting it at the level they needed to, and it was negatively affecting their performance on the field.
It is his job to dumb it down to the level necessary for it to be learned and executed, and he failed to adapt and adjust based on his personnel. That was his failure and it is why I'm glad he's gone. A good coach and coordinator knows his strengths and his weaknesses and those of his players and plans accordingly. Grantham forced his inflated playbook on a group of young and inexperienced kids who couldn't execute it and he refused to make the necessary changes to get the best out of his players.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:59 pm to FooManChoo
LINK
Around the 56:30 mark and all through the game up to that point the defense is pointing to each other telling people to go here or there cuz they don't know the call and where to be. Now this isn't just getting quick snapped and if I kept watching I could show you some more. I was at that game and in the red zone on two seperate plays it was clear our guys didn't know what was going on. So don't show me some Alabama crap I don't care about them getting quick snapped. I just don't have time to prove to you that the majority of the people on here are right about Grantham's complex defensive scheme and his inability to coach our younger players up. Quick defending a guy that took another job get behind Pruitt and enjoy a much improved defense
Around the 56:30 mark and all through the game up to that point the defense is pointing to each other telling people to go here or there cuz they don't know the call and where to be. Now this isn't just getting quick snapped and if I kept watching I could show you some more. I was at that game and in the red zone on two seperate plays it was clear our guys didn't know what was going on. So don't show me some Alabama crap I don't care about them getting quick snapped. I just don't have time to prove to you that the majority of the people on here are right about Grantham's complex defensive scheme and his inability to coach our younger players up. Quick defending a guy that took another job get behind Pruitt and enjoy a much improved defense
Posted on 4/4/14 at 6:04 am to FooManChoo
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FooManChoo
Very well said.
I'll never forgive the guy for not trying to put any pressure on the big 3rd down plays. We'd do it every now and then and it would work. Then we'd go back to rushing three and letting the qb pick the spot in the zone he wanted to attack. Infuriating.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 7:12 am to gatorhata9
Question.... Was the play on the LSU game about indicative of a complex call no one understands or a play called in late
Posted on 4/4/14 at 7:17 am to Peter Buck
Think nobody understood the call. It was so confusing that it even confused the offense enough to work, and the announcer called Swann, Swain. CTG doin work. 
Posted on 4/4/14 at 8:13 am to adawgj
Swann just validated me on 680
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