re: Texas A&M 13 @ Georgia 19 Final - CBS

It was a fricking monsoon through halftime.

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Yeah, screw Fromm and his inability to throw AND catch AND coach all at the same time.

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You're pathetic. He missed too wide open TD passes that would have made this game a lot easier. Yeah, I know, it's Pickens fault he was open by three steps instead of four.

Outside of Florida Fromm has been awful the second half of the season.

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Fromm clearly struggled for the 3rd straight game. Idk why you are trying to defend him but he has been terrible this year. I do agree that the coaching has been poor on the offensive side of the ball this year, but Fromm looks like he has regressed.

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You don't think Coley and an entirely new set of receivers has anything to do with how Fromm has looked this season compared to the past two? For three years, we've heard all about how Fromm is a work horse and a film rat. He doesn't show signs of nerves, he is frequently praised for putting our offense in the right places in terms of protections etc., and he protects the ball the ball (he's only got one INT credited to a mistake on his part this season) yet I'm supposed to believe that Fromm is a mediocre QB who couldn't throw his way out of a paper bag? That's a little too much for me to believe considering how much I've been following him the past few years.

On the contrary. I have been watching his film very closely. I make a weekly video of all his plays, after all. I've seen each play two, three, four times, or more. There is a drastic difference between this year and last, and it isn't Fromm. Our lack of play makers at WR and TE and our vanilla play calling for most of the year has made our offense mostly one-dimensional. Our WRs don't get consistent separation, which forces Fromm to either throw the ball away, check it down to a RB for a couple yards, or to try to hit a low-percentage throw to someone matched up man-on-man.

Cager has been the only consistent target to come down with the ball on those situations and he's been injured for a good part of the season. While Fromm generally has good protection, it's only good for a few seconds. He's got enough time to go through his progressions and then throw the ball somewhere. He doesn't have enough time to wait for someone to get open, so if he checks a target and they aren't open, he'll move on, so if they get open later, that won't matter.

So no, I don't personally think Fromm has regressed. I think the supporting cast has regressed which has made Fromm less successful.

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Our run game hasn't been as good this year as it was in 2017 and 2018.

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Agreed, which has put an emphasis on our passing game.

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We needed Fromm to do more this year and he hasn't come through.

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I don't think you're understanding. A pocket passing QB can't "do more" when he has no one to throw to. Tom Brady wouldn't be doing much better in this offense.

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Those two misses today were putrid and both were squarely on his shoulders. I don't give a shite if the ball was wet; good QBs can throw a ball in some rain. I remember watching Matt Ryan carve up the Jets in what looked like a hurricane in 2017.

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Yes, he missed those throws. That was on him. He needed to practice more throwing with wet balls.

That being said, he hasn't had to throw the ball with a hard downpour hardly at all in his 3 seasons at QB so it's not exactly a sign of "regression" to have trouble with it.

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As an upperclassman who is supposed to be one of the best QBs in the country, it is his job to make the players around him better. He is not doing that.

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Sounds good, but a PP QB can't do an awful lot to make the players around him play better in the game. The best he can do is call the right protections, get his players in place, go through his progressions and deliver a catchable ball where the defense can't take it away. He still has to rely on his OL, his OC, and the receivers themselves to get open and catch the ball. Our receivers have struggled getting leverage all season. That makes it much more difficult to move the ball through the air, especially when so many of those opportunities were on 3rd down.

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Brady would have made those two TD passes with his fricking eyes closed while in the eye wall of Hurricane Dorian. That's how open they were.

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Brady likely would have. He's used to throwing with a glove on in wet/cold weather.

Brady likely wouldn't fare much better in our offense as a whole, which is my point. The argument isn't simply that Fromm missed those two open receivers, but that he does it all the time and that he's regressed a lot this season. My argument is that Fromm appears to have regressed because he doesn't have any reliable receivers to throw to who can get open consistently. He had a couple of misses today due to the weather, but he rarely has open receivers during his progression which is why he either checks down or tries for the outside opportunity against single coverage. I think Coley calls a lot of slow developing plays which isn't great for a QB who goes through his progressions then dumps it off.

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This is what Fromm doesn't do. He delivers a very uncatchable ball that 1998 Randy Moss couldn't go get because it's so goddamn far over his head.

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Fromm actually does deliver catchable balls consistently. He misses some, yes, but so do all QBs. He's consistently throwing NFL-caliber balls to receivers who aren't making NFL-caliber receptions. There have been several this season that fell incomplete that were caught by Godwin and Wimms in the past two seasons. Cager has been our go-to man for those catches this season but he's been on the sideline almost as much as on the field due to injuries. Our guys can't even seem to consistently catch the balls that hit them between the numbers. We seem to have a couple of those a game. A well thrown slant was dropped early on today, for example.

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He throws a great, catchable ball to Swift behind the line of scrimmage as long as there are four defenders in front of Swift ready to kill him.

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That's usually the only option. He could try forcing more balls but then he'd have more interceptions and then he'd be lambasted for making poor decisions with the ball. At some point you have to realize that he's trying to do the best with what he's got to work with and that all of our offensive woes cannot be placed squarely on his shoulders. He's not perfect, but there are more pieces to our dysfunctional offense than just the quarterback.

This foo guy is the leader of the frommbots. It’s always someone or something else’s fault.

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Care to explain the Herrien miss?

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The Herrien miss was on Jake. The Pickens miss was also on Pickens. I originally thought Jake overthrew him, but rewatching the game showed that Pickens clearly slowed down. If he keeps the same pace that ball hits him right on the numbers.

Probably a little bit on Fromm, but if Pickens keeps running that’s a touchdown.