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Posted on 7/26/20 at 5:12 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 5:12 pm
Years ago on the radio. I forget the guy's name. Always talking shite on his commercials. One that stands out to me, where he opens his mortgage refi commercial by stating "anyone harms a kid, whether in this life or the next, someone is going to work on you with a blowtorch and a drill.... we've got the lowest rates in town etc"

Do yall remember this guy?
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6991 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 6:18 pm to
Is he in jail yet?
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
25473 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:16 am to
Jon Shibley.

He closed up shop about 10 years ago and was trying to "sell mortgage leads". I dont know if he was in the wrong or not, but the department of banking and finance issued him a cease and desist.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

He closed up shop about 10 years ago and was trying to "sell mortgage leads". I dont know if he was in the wrong or not, but the department of banking and finance issued him a cease and desist.


Are we sure about that? LINK /
Posted by Dawgalways
Anchorage, AK
Member since Dec 2012
64 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

He closed up shop about 10 years ago and was trying to "sell mortgage leads".


Was he trying to sell the Glengarry leads?
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:05 pm to
He had at least three companies. There was Lennox, The Griddd and, most recently, Closerv. Seems he’s run all of them into the ground.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63732 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:11 pm to
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The Griddd


I barely remember that one,,, if I recall it didn't last long.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63732 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:11 pm to
"It's the biggest no-brainer in the history of Earth"
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
25473 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:12 pm to
quote:



Are we sure about that? LINK /


Yes
national multistate licensing system found on the dept of banking and finance site for GA

Final order cease and desist 1/25/10.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63732 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:13 pm to
"Paying closing costs is a racket, and a rip off!"
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63732 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:14 pm to
Somebody call them and find out..

(404) 480-9687
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:17 pm to
Coffee is for closers damnit.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
25473 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

quote:
He closed up shop about 10 years ago and was trying to "sell mortgage leads".


Was he trying to sell the Glengarry leads?


The richest people in the world either sell fear or they sell hope.
The fact that he still might be getting calls or emails from a website that should have been shut down confirms that he is selling mortgage leads.

Since Shibley cant sell mortgages, he sells hope to desperate loan originators.

Here is a housingwire.com article on the cease and desist:
housingwire.com

quote:

An Atlanta man once dubbed a mortgage maverick by CNN has a state regulator telling him to stop operating without a license.

The Georgia Department of Banking and Finance issued a cease and desist order to Lenox Financial Mortgage this week. The order seeks to stop the Atlanta-based residential mortgage business from mortgage lending/brokering activities that require a mortgage license. “This order to cease and desist was issued by the department after it obtained evidence that Lenox Financial Mortgage engaged in residential mortgage brokering and lending activities without a license or under an applicable exemption,” the state regulator said in a statement on Lenox.

However, Lenox  founder Jon Shibley told HousingWire he voluntarily relinquished his license in November and notified the Department of Banking about the change. Shibley said he exited his old business model in late 2010 to focus on building a new model where he sincerely believes no license is needed to operate.

“The department issuing the cease and desist is overstepping its bounds to such a degree that they are trying to label everybody a mortgage provider, requiring them to be licensed,” he said.

Shibley said prior to Dec. 1, Lenox functioned under a business model where homebuyers would call the company’s Atlanta headquarters asking for loans. At the time, hundreds of licensed mortgage brokers at Lenox handled those calls, Shibley said. As mortgage brokers “we would sell (the loans) directly to the mortgage market,” he explained. Shibley said his firm was able to offer no closing costs by paying those fees for borrowers. But as the mortgage landscape changed, Lenox said he closed his old business on Dec. 1 and notified the Department of Banking of the change.

Specifically, his plans call for the creation of a franchisee-business model, where Lenox will no longer broker mortgages or have brokers inhouse. Instead, the firm will rely on outside mortgage brokers and banks that will function as franchisees. All of the leads that come in under Shibley’s new platform will be fielded directly by the franchisees, allowing those firms to handle the entire mortgage origination, he said. “I informed the Department of Banking and Finance — the ones that issued the cease and desist,” he told HousingWire. “And then they gave a cease and desist with no investigation or understanding” of the new business model.

More than a year ago, CNN ran an extended interview, in which Shibley tells a reporter his firm is able to offer loans with no closing costs by selling mortgages to the secondary mortgage market. Shibley founded Lenox Financial in 1994. The firm is not affiliated with Lenox Financial Mortgage Corporation headquartered in Irvine, Calif. Write to Kerri Panchuk.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25473 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:25 pm to
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"Paying closing costs is a racket, and a rip off!"


I like the concept of no closing costs.

But tell people how much interest they pay back in a no closing cost 30 year mortgage and a closing cost 30 year mortgage and we can start to wonder who is ripping off who (looking at you jon shibley).

The man advertised to the lowest intelligence group of a radio broadcasting audience.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63732 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:31 pm to
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I like the concept of no closing costs.

But tell people how much interest they pay back in a no closing cost 30 year mortgage and a closing cost 30 year mortgage and we can start to wonder who is ripping off who (looking at you jon shibley).


But you have to subtract the opportunity cost of paying those closing costs.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
25473 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:32 pm to
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But you have to subtract the opportunity cost of paying those closing costs.



?

Are you implying a time value of money?
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