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re: Question for Peter Buck and Xs and Os people

Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:25 pm to
If only we'd ran more outside zone, we'd have gone 17-0.

Fire that worthless son of a bitch.
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:27 pm to
I did not hear him say it wasn’t installed in the playbook. But why would they not use it at all if it was in the playbook? Bc they didn’t go to it at any point in that game.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:30 pm to
What Brooks said is now that we have a QB that is a threat to run on the read option (not the same as RPO), that it will be harder for teams to defend it because they can’t cheat the dive. He also said teams learned from Ole Miss to run defensive stunts to take away our running game. Is why we checked down to pass plays a lot.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

I did not hear him say it wasn’t installed in the playbook. But why would they not use it at all if it was in the playbook? Bc they didn’t go to it at any point in that game.


That's all well and good play call discussion. But the hook line and sinker from ViolentHipSwivel is that Brooks said it was never even installed, therefore fire him. That's a completely different level of conversation than "why didn't we call more of these plays instead of those plays?".
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:40 pm to
Why would you continue to run inside zone all game knowing they are stunting, if you had outside zone concepts in your playbook? Bc it looks like to me that Pete Golding knew exactly what we were doing the entire game. And you are correct Brooks probably did not say what VHS stated in the first comment, but judging by the film from the game you should be able to put 2 and 2 together.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 9:21 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:09 pm to
Have you watched the film yet, Brad?
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:22 pm to
Do I need to? I just watched his entire break down of the ole piss game and I’m pretty sure VHS is correct. Bobo did not implement an outside/horizontal/ wide run scheme to take away from the stunts that they ran all game.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 9:25 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:27 pm to
OK Brad. Cool story. Thanks for the update.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

If only we'd ran more outside zone, we'd have gone 17-0.

Fire that worthless son of a bitch.



If only we'd ran more outside zone our run game wouldn't have been so predictable.

...It's in one of the damn Brooks Austin videos. I didn't just imagine that shite, I promise!
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:36 pm to
36 minutes.

Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:52 pm to
He knows they installed it and ran it, not sure why he would say it that way.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:21 am to
26,46, 57

LINK
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 6:07 am to
quote:

OK Brad. Cool story. Thanks for the update


36 minute mark shallowrig, are you happy?

At least we now know why we couldn’t run the ball last year.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:42 am to
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Bobo never installed outside zone run and we didn't run it at all last season. Said that Ole Miss was the first to fully realize it


With all the stats and data breakdowns that teams can run now, I have a hard believing that we didn't run it and that Ole Miss was the first team to recognize it. And if we had not installed it, it would take 30 seconds on the sideline to review a play they've all ran since they were kindergartners.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:28 am to
FWIW
1) Brooks motto is, "Film don't lie." He's built a lot of credibility with the media with with UGA football with his analysis. Can't see him throwing that all away by lying on something that could so easily be disproven.
2) Whether it "was never installed is immaterial." If we never ran it, which apparently we didn't, what difference does it make?
3) And yes, after watching the video VHS provided it's crystal clear Brooks said it was never installed, so all of you who denied he said it look ignorant. Maybe investigate next time before you call someone a liar......or just keep advertising you foolishness. It's your call.
4) VHS never said "fire him." He said it was "egregious", which it was. Why people on message boards blatantly lie about what was said, when it's so easily fact checked has always baffled me. The only conclusion I can ever come to is they count it as nothing to sacrifice their integrity to protect a huge, but oh so fragile ego.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 10:38 am
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:39 am to
And had the worst offensive performance in Kirbys tenure. The defense is what saved the season, not offense. So, not sure what you are talking about Peter Buck or Deeprig or whomever you are.

Love this quote from Bobo btw the other day about "starting fast". Tells you all you need to know. Similar to Richt saying we care more about building men rather than winning championships.

"And you'd like to start fast every day. But sometimes starting fast does not necessarily mean you're touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, or touchdown, field goal, touchdown. Sometimes starting fast is you get a couple first downs and you change the field position."
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:08 pm to
I literally showed 4 plays in one game where we ran it or a variation of it and it was on Brooks Austin’s film breakdown so.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:56 pm to
Runs outside the tackle? Or the outside zone run scheme?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

1) Brooks motto is, "Film don't lie." He's built a lot of credibility with the media with with UGA football with his analysis. Can't see him throwing that all away by lying on something that could so easily be disproven.


I don't think he's lying but Peter Buck just posted a video from a game we played before Ole Miss that had some OZ scheme plays.

quote:

2) Whether it "was never installed is immaterial." If we never ran it, which apparently we didn't, what difference does it make?


But it appears that it was installed and ran to some extent.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
384 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

I don't think he's lying but Peter Buck just posted a video from a game we played before Ole Miss that had some OZ scheme plays.


Those 3 plays were not an outside zone run scheme.
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