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QB Stats for those that have beaten Bama
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:23 pm
Since Kirby left as their DC. Not a whole lot of losses during that time frame so pretty quick to pull the numbers. There are certainly a handful more games, 3 more just in this season actually, that they easily COULD have lost, but those don't really factor in here since we're only looking at actual losses. This speaks nothing to star rankings, age class, dual threat ability, etc. Just the stats.
21-31 (68%), 285 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT
15-30 (50%), 173 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT. 44 RY, 1 TD
31-39 (79%), 393 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT
20-32 (63%), 347 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT
21-28 (75%), 237 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT. 51 RY, 1 TD
36-56 (64%), 420 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT. 43 RY, 1 TD
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18-40 (45%), 269 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT.
29-48 (60%), 340 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT.
-First thing that jumps out and slaps you in the face is ball security. QBs that have beaten bama have not turned the ball over while stetson definitely has.
-Movnig the chains. All winning QBs have copmleted a solid percentage to keep their teams on the field. Stetson's 2 outings would represent the last and 3rd to last percentages on this list.
-Stetson's yardage actually isn't too bad comparatively, epsecially this last game. History shows that 340 yards is certainly adequate when it comes to taking down bama. One thing we've seen with 2 of the duds (regarding pass yards) on the winning list is scrambling. The 2 lowest output passing yards on the list also ran for 40-50 yards and added a touchdown on the ground. Stetson has 0 rushing TDs and has not ran for more than 15 yards in a game against bama
Ultimately I think the change from game 1 to game 2 is pretty good. You can easily see his completions, percentage, yards, and TD/INT all improved from 2020 to 2021. However, he absolutely HAS to stop throwing the ball to alabama especially at crucail times. In the red zone, to stop a promising drive, to give them 7 points...can't happen and win the game. As for what this means for january 10th who knows. Just pointing out that if we beat alabama we're going to need to see stetson hit another gear but more than anything, hold onto the ball
21-31 (68%), 285 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT
15-30 (50%), 173 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT. 44 RY, 1 TD
31-39 (79%), 393 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT
20-32 (63%), 347 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT
21-28 (75%), 237 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT. 51 RY, 1 TD
36-56 (64%), 420 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT. 43 RY, 1 TD
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18-40 (45%), 269 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT.
29-48 (60%), 340 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT.
-First thing that jumps out and slaps you in the face is ball security. QBs that have beaten bama have not turned the ball over while stetson definitely has.
-Movnig the chains. All winning QBs have copmleted a solid percentage to keep their teams on the field. Stetson's 2 outings would represent the last and 3rd to last percentages on this list.
-Stetson's yardage actually isn't too bad comparatively, epsecially this last game. History shows that 340 yards is certainly adequate when it comes to taking down bama. One thing we've seen with 2 of the duds (regarding pass yards) on the winning list is scrambling. The 2 lowest output passing yards on the list also ran for 40-50 yards and added a touchdown on the ground. Stetson has 0 rushing TDs and has not ran for more than 15 yards in a game against bama
Ultimately I think the change from game 1 to game 2 is pretty good. You can easily see his completions, percentage, yards, and TD/INT all improved from 2020 to 2021. However, he absolutely HAS to stop throwing the ball to alabama especially at crucail times. In the red zone, to stop a promising drive, to give them 7 points...can't happen and win the game. As for what this means for january 10th who knows. Just pointing out that if we beat alabama we're going to need to see stetson hit another gear but more than anything, hold onto the ball
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Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:33 pm to WG_Dawg
You don't want to be in a shootout vs the Heisman winner so how about we get pressure on him, and on offense, not abandon the running game so fast. Stetson is fire when teams have to sell out to stop the run. So make them.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:34 pm to WG_Dawg
If we work the running game more, take a few more shots over the top when they cheat their safeties up, pass block better, hurt them a tad more with the QB scramble and run when they are in man, and make some defensive stops to keep our offense on game plan, we will have a shot for sure.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:44 pm to deeprig9
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You don't want to be in a shootout vs the Heisman winner so how about we get pressure on him, and on offense, not abandon the running game so fast.
agree wtih both. I'll go to my grave scratching my head on who thought our defensive gameplan last game was a good idea. Just mind bogglingly stupid.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:52 pm to WG_Dawg
Zach Calzada beat Bama this year.
TJ Finley and Max Johnson came incredibly close to beating Bama.
Stetson is better than all 3 of those guys. Yes, Stetson is probably not going to win us the game. But our team played good enough all season to beat them.
Kirby/Lanning for whatever reason decided to get cute game planning and it killed us. Not saying Bama doesn’t deserve credit, because they absolutely do. Bryce was great, WRs were, and their OL stepped up. I just don’t know why we made it easier on them.
TJ Finley and Max Johnson came incredibly close to beating Bama.
Stetson is better than all 3 of those guys. Yes, Stetson is probably not going to win us the game. But our team played good enough all season to beat them.
Kirby/Lanning for whatever reason decided to get cute game planning and it killed us. Not saying Bama doesn’t deserve credit, because they absolutely do. Bryce was great, WRs were, and their OL stepped up. I just don’t know why we made it easier on them.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:59 pm to Dawgsontop34
The defense was poor. However, we did force 3 straight punts and could never get it within two touchdowns in the second half.
We're not beating Bama with Stet throwing it 40 plus times. The only way we win is if our defense can put up a respectable effort and we can run the ball.
Stetson is not winning a shootout with Bryce Young, and if he throws multiple interceptions for the 3rd time then you can forget about it.
We're not beating Bama with Stet throwing it 40 plus times. The only way we win is if our defense can put up a respectable effort and we can run the ball.
Stetson is not winning a shootout with Bryce Young, and if he throws multiple interceptions for the 3rd time then you can forget about it.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 2:02 pm to Buzz Killington
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We're not beating Bama with Stet throwing it 40 plus times. The only way we win is if our defense can put up a respectable effort and we can run the ball.
Based on the above data, not many teams are beating Bama if they have to throw it 40+ times.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 2:48 pm to deeprig9
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You don't want to be in a shootout vs the Heisman winner
Of course not, but if you are, and it’s likely bama is gonna force that issue, you better have a qb capable of throwing well.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 2:55 pm to djsdawg
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Of course not, but if you are, and it’s likely bama is gonna force that issue, you better have a qb capable of throwing well.
But we don't, so, stick to the game plan, maybe force a couple turnovers of our own this time around, should we get past Michigan.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 2:59 pm to deeprig9
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But we don't
If the backup is healthy, we just might.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 3:00 pm to djsdawg
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If the backup is healthy, we just might.
'If' and 'might' being the operative words in that statement.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 3:06 pm to deeprig9
Count me in as a person who thinkS JTD is healthy, and we have seen him prove more than Bennett as a passer.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 5:39 pm to Buzz Killington
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We're not beating Bama with Stet throwing it 40 plus times. The only way we win is if our defense can put up a respectable effort and we can run the ball.
Stetson is not winning a shootout with Bryce Young, and if he throws multiple interceptions for the 3rd time then you can forget about it.
Switch Stet out for JT and the exact same thing rings true.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:10 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Switch Stet out for JT and the exact same thing rings true.
Maybe, maybe not, but Odds go way up.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:10 pm to djsdawg
I’m someone who wants JT to start.
But acting like he’s been way better than Stetson hasn’t really been proven.
But acting like he’s been way better than Stetson hasn’t really been proven.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:38 pm to Dawgsontop34
He has proven he can make clutch throws late in a game to put the team in position to kick a game winner.
He has proven he can throw when the run game is nonexistent.
He has proven he can throw despite an intense pass rush vs an elite D.
Bennett hasn’t.
He has proven he can throw when the run game is nonexistent.
He has proven he can throw despite an intense pass rush vs an elite D.
Bennett hasn’t.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 9:31 pm to djsdawg
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He has proven he can throw despite an intense pass rush vs an elite D.
You saying Cincy last year?
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He has proven he can throw when the run game is nonexistent.
Stet’s done that a couple times himself.
Again, I’m pro-JT. I want him to start. But I think we’re acting like the difference is astronomical where it hasn’t been based on this season especially.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 9:54 pm to Dawgsontop34
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You saying Cincy last year?
Yes to two of those points.
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Stet’s done that a couple times himself.
I don’t think so.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 10:07 pm to WG_Dawg
I think you can begin and end at ball security. We don't turn the ball over, we are in that game until the end. Throw 3 interceptions and lose by 3 TDs.
Take the sack, punt the ball, whatever. Just do not turn it over.
Take the sack, punt the ball, whatever. Just do not turn it over.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 10:24 pm to GoldenDawg
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I think you can begin and end at ball security. We don't turn the ball over, we are in that game until the end. Throw 3 interceptions and lose by 3 TDs. Take the sack, punt the ball, whatever. Just do not turn it over.
What if our defense makes some stops, we run the ball a bit more, and keep the pass attempts in the low 30s?
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