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re: OT: what would you do? ZAG I NEED YOUR EXPERTISE!!!!!
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:26 am to Spunky
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:26 am to Spunky
Block off his trail where it comes onto your property with the wire. Make sure the wire is visible by hanging some flagging tape on it. Put up your signs. Take pictures of the whole thing so that if the drunk fricker runs through it and gets hurt you have proof it was his fault and not some type of trap you set.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:42 am to Spunky
First order of business is actually trying to talk to them, explain it damages your grass, which is expensive to maintain and get some 'no trespassing' signs. Also, when you talk to them, make it clear you are telling them that riding the quad through your yard is trespassing.
Next, is the dog actually a Pit? I would bet it isn't. Also, you didn't say, but is it actually aggressive? If it is really a pit and these people aren't trying to fight the dog, I'd would again bet that it isn't aggressive. Or does it just get angry when you go beating on it with a broom? I mean, shoot the people, but the dog is probably just looking for warm spot to lay in the sun. They are the best breed in the world (if that is what it is) when trained right, no reason to kill/hurt the dog because the owners suck, if it isn't "broken" yet. Sorry for that, but I hate the whole "OMG!! A pit! *jumps on chair* Somebody step on it and kill it, EEEEEEEKKKKK!!!" reaction people have to probably the naturally sweetest, most loving breed of dog on the planet because of inexcusable media bias, stupid movies and idiot thugs.
Back to the 'necks: Does you HOA allow you to and can you afford to put up a nice fence? A nice new little picket fence or something should be enough to get the message across. If they were to run through it, that would be vandalism and you could probably just go shoot at them at that point, but having them arrested and force to pay for the damage would be the better way to go. Make them pay for any damages to the grass as well.
If it gets to the point you need to start with the barb wire, etc. Caltrop are the way to go. You could just take some sheet steel, etc and something like tin snips and cut out little shapes to bend into a caltrop to slice their tires, but I prefer another method. Take some small gauge steel tubing, cut into 4 inch lengths or so, bend at an angle and weld the inside of two bends together so that it will stand with one point always straight up. Grind down all four points so they are sharp and then when the four wheeler runs over them, it will puncture the tire and the hollow tubing will ensure the air runs out very quickly, not blocking the air flow and leaves a good sized hole in the tire.
After they do that a few times, they may not know it was you, but they'll probably just stop riding those trails or at least coming in that way. Or just stop riding because they can't afford any more new tires.
Next, is the dog actually a Pit? I would bet it isn't. Also, you didn't say, but is it actually aggressive? If it is really a pit and these people aren't trying to fight the dog, I'd would again bet that it isn't aggressive. Or does it just get angry when you go beating on it with a broom? I mean, shoot the people, but the dog is probably just looking for warm spot to lay in the sun. They are the best breed in the world (if that is what it is) when trained right, no reason to kill/hurt the dog because the owners suck, if it isn't "broken" yet. Sorry for that, but I hate the whole "OMG!! A pit! *jumps on chair* Somebody step on it and kill it, EEEEEEEKKKKK!!!" reaction people have to probably the naturally sweetest, most loving breed of dog on the planet because of inexcusable media bias, stupid movies and idiot thugs.
Back to the 'necks: Does you HOA allow you to and can you afford to put up a nice fence? A nice new little picket fence or something should be enough to get the message across. If they were to run through it, that would be vandalism and you could probably just go shoot at them at that point, but having them arrested and force to pay for the damage would be the better way to go. Make them pay for any damages to the grass as well.
If it gets to the point you need to start with the barb wire, etc. Caltrop are the way to go. You could just take some sheet steel, etc and something like tin snips and cut out little shapes to bend into a caltrop to slice their tires, but I prefer another method. Take some small gauge steel tubing, cut into 4 inch lengths or so, bend at an angle and weld the inside of two bends together so that it will stand with one point always straight up. Grind down all four points so they are sharp and then when the four wheeler runs over them, it will puncture the tire and the hollow tubing will ensure the air runs out very quickly, not blocking the air flow and leaves a good sized hole in the tire.
After they do that a few times, they may not know it was you, but they'll probably just stop riding those trails or at least coming in that way. Or just stop riding because they can't afford any more new tires.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:44 am to Spunky
Doesn't sound like you live in an upscale neighborhood to me
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:53 am to Nicolae
bullshite. pits should be banned.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:57 am to Nicolae
Its definitely a pit and no its not aggressive to me but my wife has a Schnauzer and I would hate for that thing to get a hold of him while she is walking him. Some dogs tend to act more aggressive towards other dogs than humans. As far as.the fence goes, welk that's not gonna happen for one HOA wont allow it if its in site. I have am area fenced in for my dogs behind my house but no one can see it but me. Even if they would allow it I wouldn't want it I like my yard open
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:58 am to rockchlkjayhku11
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Doesn't sound like you live in an upscale neighborhood to me
Doesn't sound like you read the story to me
Posted on 6/11/13 at 12:21 pm to Spunky
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So I live in a cul de sac.....
Look at yourself man...... You really can't see it can you?
Look. You're not pissed at this dude on the 4-wheeler.....You're fricking JEALOUS of him!!!
There you sit.... alone in your garage.....probably next to all of your lawn tools and chemicals that you use to decorate your suburban prison cell......numbing yourself to the pain........and up rides a man THAT'S FREE!! And you hate him for it.
I had a 4-wheeler growing up and I came across hundreds of miserable fricks like you......shaking their fists at me with horrible frowns on their faces as I ripped across their lawn with their daughter on the back....FREE AS A BIRD!
Spunky, I raise a clinched fist into the air as I type this......to SALUTE this young man on the 4 wheeler. And I hope he leaves a flaming bag of dogshit on your doorstep, rings the bell....and you fall for it....one day.
Onward........
Posted on 6/11/13 at 12:22 pm to Spunky
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So I live in a cul de sac in the back of a pretty upscale neighborhood
Fancy. I bet y'all have swim/tennis and everything.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 12:56 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I grew up with a 4 wheeler as well, only difference is I grew up with parents who taught me to respect other people and their property. Something you parents didn't seem to find time for, Crack rock Copenhagen and Budweiser took up to much time to raise little Jeffrey right. 

Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:24 pm to Spunky
Not sure on the local law where you live, but as a general rule:
1. Contact the city and get permission to post "No Trespassing" signs. It's a stupid step, but it will ultimately be helpful, should you have to go to court over it.
2. Agree with the videotaping, if possible. Document every intrusion, regardless - date, time, physical description, everything. Document any resulting damage, too.
3. Contact your homeowner's insurance company - let them know what is happening. If one of the goons does get hurt on your property, they'll be forewarned of it.
4. Get a restraining order barring them from entering your property.
Long term: you can always sue and/or press criminal charges. Of course, you'll then have to deal with people who hate you, so...it might just be easier to put in a fence.
Whatever you do, don't do anything like setting up booby traps. From a legal standpoint, those are bad, bad news for you.
1. Contact the city and get permission to post "No Trespassing" signs. It's a stupid step, but it will ultimately be helpful, should you have to go to court over it.
2. Agree with the videotaping, if possible. Document every intrusion, regardless - date, time, physical description, everything. Document any resulting damage, too.
3. Contact your homeowner's insurance company - let them know what is happening. If one of the goons does get hurt on your property, they'll be forewarned of it.
4. Get a restraining order barring them from entering your property.
Long term: you can always sue and/or press criminal charges. Of course, you'll then have to deal with people who hate you, so...it might just be easier to put in a fence.
Whatever you do, don't do anything like setting up booby traps. From a legal standpoint, those are bad, bad news for you.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 2:28 pm to CockInYourEar
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If the quad bandit is going through the same trail through your yard and into the woods, find the spot he's entering your woods and put up razor wire (about 4 feet high).
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If it's not legal to have razor wire up, it would also probably be illegal to buy used rusty barb wire and put it slightly further up his trail but off your property, so that there was nothing physical to tie its presence to you. rusty wire online.
Very risky to do stuff like that. The problem is that it presents a threat to everybody, so it could very easily lead to negligence charges, void homeowner's insurance, etc. Regular fencing like pickets, palisades, or chain link are much safer options.
Also, putting up stuff like razor wire can lead to trouble with the HOA, if you have one.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:36 pm to FaCubeItches
HOA isn't what worries me about the razor / barb wire. Its the law. Am I pissed? Yea, do I want to kill some dumbass over it? No. I wouldn't mind beating his arse and teaching him a lesson about respect but what I really want is no more 4 wheeler tracks and pit bulls in my yard.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:47 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Look at yourself man...... You really can't see it can you?
Look. You're not pissed at this dude on the 4-wheeler.....You're fricking JEALOUS of him!!!
There you sit.... alone in your garage.....probably next to all of your lawn tools and chemicals that you use to decorate your suburban prison cell......numbing yourself to the pain........and up rides a man THAT'S FREE!! And you hate him for it.
I had a 4-wheeler growing up and I came across hundreds of miserable fricks like you......shaking their fists at me with horrible frowns on their faces as I ripped across their lawn with their daughter on the back....FREE AS A BIRD!
Spunky, I raise a clinched fist into the air as I type this......to SALUTE this young man on the 4 wheeler. And I hope he leaves a flaming bag of dogshit on your doorstep, rings the bell....and you fall for it....one day.
Onward........
Just like what I have told Spanky to do, I would have blown your head off while you had your hand up in the air like a fool.
That's freedom son.

Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:52 pm to Wild Thang
I still struggle with the thought that Jeffrey was his dads strongest swimmer.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:44 pm to Spunky
Do NOT set traps or razor wire or barbed wire. But, if you have a water drainage problem at the area where this butthead is entering your property,(or if you think you might someday have a drainage problem)here is how to solve this drainage problem.
Dig a trench about 6 inches deep and one foot wide across the entire stretch just inside your property line (and beside the Do Not Enter - No Tresspassing signs. Get some ground cloth and fit it across the drainage trench and stake it in place securely with tent pegs.
Next, take some sod and place across the ground cloth to make your lawn aesthetically pleasing to the neighbors. You should have only one or two drainage issues after this.
As for the dog, get a water blaster, fill it with ammonia or lemon juice, and soak his face a couple of times. He will find another deck to sleep on.
Dig a trench about 6 inches deep and one foot wide across the entire stretch just inside your property line (and beside the Do Not Enter - No Tresspassing signs. Get some ground cloth and fit it across the drainage trench and stake it in place securely with tent pegs.
Next, take some sod and place across the ground cloth to make your lawn aesthetically pleasing to the neighbors. You should have only one or two drainage issues after this.
As for the dog, get a water blaster, fill it with ammonia or lemon juice, and soak his face a couple of times. He will find another deck to sleep on.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:57 pm to AlaCowboy
frick that's a lot of work
I think I may just borrow a ditch witch and cut a couple trenches in the woods. The whole point is I don't want my grass fricked up and where the grass ends tje woods begin.
I love the dog idea though but I'm leaning towards the suppressed. 22 my sister lives next door and has two girls 3&5 so it.may be best to take the dog.out now vs it hurting one of them and I have to do.what sicem& wild thang said and wipe em all out.

I love the dog idea though but I'm leaning towards the suppressed. 22 my sister lives next door and has two girls 3&5 so it.may be best to take the dog.out now vs it hurting one of them and I have to do.what sicem& wild thang said and wipe em all out.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:15 pm to DOKA
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Spanky you must hurt these people physically. Could save some serious tax money if you can just kill one.

It's your right to frick anyone up trespassing on your property. Warning shot, kill shot.
Justice in merica
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:31 pm to Wild Thang
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That's freedom son.
You wouldn't know "freedom" if it bit you in the arse, Commie.
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Just like what I have told Spanky to do, I would have blown your head off
If you were to actually take a shot, I would almost guarantee that you'd miss. You cul de sac tough guys are good at posing with your guns, but when's the last time you actually shot one???

MOving on.............
SOmething just dawned on me......... It seems that you and fellow "cul de sac tough guy" Spunky have an issue with pitbulls and four-wheelers walking all over you and pushing you around. And it also occurs to me, that I do not have this problem.
Conclusion: I guess some people just command more Respect than others do.
It's good to be King.
Good night. Losers.

Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:32 pm to Wild Thang
I have no issue killing someone entering my property with bad intent ala robbery. But some hick who rides thru my yard doesn't deserve to meet his maker just for that. Meet my fist possibly but not the other. When I get off of.work tmrw I will.go.back there and try and tak.some.sense into them. Hopefully it works out forntge best
Posted on 6/11/13 at 10:44 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Jefferson you truly are a dumbass.
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