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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:42 pm to
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I am about to make you look real dumb when I get back to my computer. You have until then to edit.

Tick tock.


Ok, just make sure whatever nonsense you post is clear and in logical order so I can use less of my time refuting it.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:50 pm to
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I don't know if he can supply any evidence to this or not. What I do know is you won't believe him if he does.


Exactly. This is why Trump's statement is so classic: January 23, 2016: "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters."

No information, no matter from whom or how presented, can alter the beliefs of the hardcore Trumpists. Trump is correct: There could be video of him shooting someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and half of them would believe it been doctored by the left wing media. The other half would say, "Well what must have that person done to warrant Trump shooting him?"

It is truly a recursory loop of ignorance and cult-like followership, similar to what "true believers" have shown for similar figures throughout history. There is no point in attempting to engage with that 30%-35% of the population.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:52 pm to
Hate to say this pal but you are wrong about the weapons of mass destruction. Multiple stories are floating around the special ops community about buried mobile labs and weapons not to mention what went across both borders before we got there. Just because a few pencil pushers wasn’t allowed to see them doesn’t mean they weren’t there.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Weird they would cancel a parade due to a flu pandemic when the flu wasn't even discovered until 1933.


lol...Okay, so what are you asserting here...

That there was no influenza pandemic in 1918-1919?

Or that medical/public health people didn't know what influenza was in 1918? (whether they fully understood the mechanism at that time - some thought it was a bacteria - is moot. They still knew they had a highly communicable disease on their hands)

Or that there were not different responses by different cities and states (some acting quickly and others taking it less seriously at first).

All three of above are false and you can spend many hours reading up on these subjects if so inclined.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28223 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:36 pm to
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Or that there were not different responses by different cities and states (some acting quickly and others taking it less seriously at first


How bout cities like NY having the same responses now and getting different results? How bout DC,Houston,St Louis and Chicago?
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
5114 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:05 pm to
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Hate to say this pal but you are wrong about the weapons of mass destruction. Multiple stories are floating around the special ops community about buried mobile labs and weapons not to mention what went across both borders before we got there. Just because a few pencil pushers wasn’t allowed to see them doesn’t mean they weren’t there.




Can confirm.

Former Arabic Linguist. Was kinda my area of focus.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:21 pm to
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Hate to say this pal but you are wrong about the weapons of mass destruction. Multiple stories are floating around the special ops community about buried mobile labs and weapons not to mention what went across both borders before we got there. Just because a few pencil pushers wasn’t allowed to see them doesn’t mean they weren’t there.

Oh boy you believe that Iraq had WMDs
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:22 pm to
I’d be interested to hear some of the shite you’ve heard. The feds came in once and done a bunch of interviews while I was at Bucca. One after another for probably ten detainees they all broke down and cried like little girls because they weren’t allowed to eat the meat we supplied them. I mean cried like they just got their hoop stretched. All I could do was giggle because this high speed investigator flew all the way to shithole Bucca to hear grown men cry over stew.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:42 pm to
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Oh boy you believe that Iraq had WMDs


Just because Dubya told them so. I'm curious, if we invaded with a Democrat as president would these guys would still believe there were WMD?
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:52 pm to
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How bout cities like NY having the same responses now and getting different results? How bout DC, Houston,St Louis and Chicago?


Your point being what?
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:55 pm to
I guess mustard and sarin gas don’t count. Let’s just ask the Kurds.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 7:03 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:50 pm to
So you must think the war in Iraq was justified
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:18 pm to
You must assume a lot.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74648 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:38 pm to
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So you must think the war in Iraq was justified


They were in violation of 21 United Nations ceasefire agreements that were enacted after they invaded Kuwait and genocided a bunch of their own people before surrendering.

Even if no WMD existed, the justification for war was there in spades.

Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:53 pm to
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They were in violation of 21 United Nations ceasefire agreements that were enacted after they invaded Kuwait and genocided a bunch of their own people before surrendering.

Even if no WMD existed, the justification for war was there in spades.



Iraq is much worse off because of our actions. Perhaps it was legal, but it was a costly mistake. Saddam was an evil POS but is he worse than ISIS and all the shite that came after? No. Sadly, there are a lot of evil leaders who murder people. However, It's not our responsibility to save everyone.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:02 pm to
How can you sit here in safety and comfort and say he isn’t worse than ISIS? The man terrorized that country for years. He had an architect shot just so the place he built for Saddam couldn’t be duplicated. His kids were allowed to rape and murder at will for any reason and you may have missed the videos of the Republican Guard torturing people. A large majority of that country lived in extreme poverty while his mother had gold fixtures in her bathroom. Saddam dried up the marshes due to his hatred for the marsh Arabs and cut down the date trees in eastern Iraq to punish people for defiance. The end result isn’t pretty but you can’t call one worse than the other. Feel free to spend a few minutes reading about Halabja Iraq, I’ve seen the results of his chemical warfare in person.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:02 pm to
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genocided a bunch of their own people before surrendering.

North Korea kills a shite ton of it's own people, should we invade them as well?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:04 pm to
Yeah he was a brutal dictator but that doesn't mean we should go over there and topple him. I mean for fricks sake we've been in the ME for nearly two decades now is it all really just to fight evil people?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74648 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:07 pm to
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North Korea kills a shite ton of it's own people, should we invade them as well?


Yes.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74648 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:09 pm to
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Yeah he was a brutal dictator but that doesn't mean we should go over there and topple him.


You are woefully ignorant on how the Iraq war came to be. Woefully.
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