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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3054 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:03 pm to
China's Pinky and the Brain:

-Find a virus in bats that cannot be spread to humans
-Genetically alter that virus with HIV and SARS to give it the weapons it needs to attach humans
- Release it in your own country and subdue knowledge to give it time to spread worldwide
- Blame it on the food market that is next door to your biological weapon factory
- Suddenly show a tremendous ability to minimize new cases in China
- Watch it destroy the US economy and hopefully harm the re-elections of a guy who is routinely bending you over the table on trade
- Wait a few months, then miraculously find a vaccine
- Sell the vaccine to the world for trillions
- Rinse and repeat
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:05 pm to
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under 50 patients roaming around my facility right now.


You have patients roaming around your hospital?
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3054 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:08 pm to
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You have patients roaming around your hospital?


The only way for the death toll to come down is Zombies.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4157 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:11 pm to
Yeah. People still get sick from stuff other than the 'rona. It's obviously slow but we still do surgery and endoscopy and all kinds of stuff. Cancer patients still need radiation and chemo. Less people are getting hurt in accidents which is nice.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:12 pm to
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People who aren't Fox News & Trump brainwashed morons would like to know why the Trump administration is willing to supply China but tells US states that they're on their own.



This could be one reason:

New York City stockpiled ventilators for a pandemic, only to later auction them off: report

New York had stockpiles of ventilators and turned around and auctioned them off. But hey...Bloomberg probably made some money off of it, so who cares? NY can now ask the federal government for their stockpile and then blame Trump if he refuses to give them their every wish.

I am guessing you are upset and will point fingers at Bloomberg, and NYC for selling their stockpiles, too?
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 1:15 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:15 pm to
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This pandemic would have killed 2.2M Americans had we done nothing!!!!


This number came from a recent WH press conference.

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Either Trump did an amazing job and prevented millions of people from dying


Trump left it up to the states in an attempt to absolve himself from blame, so the states would get the credit for successful mitigation.

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that will kill less than a bad flu season


Interesting the next Fox News talking point you regurgitate has shifted from “but Obama swine flu!!” now that this has already passed that one rather quickly. Now that’s moving the goal posts. No one does it better than y’all.

And you, mr Idiot Trumper, still don’t understand the positive effect of the current social distancing strategies. The numbers should be much lower due to our efforts. That’s evidence that you were wrong for those keeping score at home.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:16 pm to
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How do we compare to China per capita? They have 1.386 billion. We have more than 1 billion fewer people.






So, it is your opinion that China is being upfront and honest with their numbers? Based upon their past honesty about the Corona, I am guessing?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:19 pm to
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assuming your position is the government should make American companies stop selling goods to China?


Don’t sell stuff we need for ourselves to China is a sensible idea. Invoke p!!!!
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26513 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:39 pm to
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Invoke p!!!!


Now we want Trump to be the authoritarian ruler!!!!!!

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26294 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:41 pm to
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Don’t sell stuff we need for ourselves to China is a sensible idea. Invoke p!!!!


Do you see any possibility that this could backfire?
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:46 pm to
I'm not sure that China's numbers are on the level. We can't completely rely on ours either.

The Stanford epidemiologist that SneakyWaffles touts wrote that our testing is so deficient that we can't know how deeply the virus has spread.

We've just never responded like we should have. China has reopened Wuhan so they must be in pretty good shape. The US situation is terrible and we still aren't responding as we should.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26294 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:49 pm to
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We've just never responded like we should have.


You keep beating this drum.
But we are currently testing more and faster than any country on earth.

I wouldnt respond except the word never leaves little wiggle room for you to be wrong.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:49 pm to
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you see any possibility that this could backfire?


If anything backfired, it was selling stuff we needed. I think having enough PPE ago not have to ration is the opposite of a backfire.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:50 pm to
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Now we want Trump to be the authoritarian ruler!!!!!!


I want him to be a competent leader who doesn’t act like a hormonal 15 year old.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26294 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:56 pm to
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anything backfired, it was selling stuff we needed. I think having enough PPE ago not have to ration is the opposite of a backfire.


Does China have stuff that we need?
Does India have stuff that we need?
Does Canada and Mexico have stuff that we need?
Does Japan and Germany have stuff that we need?

We import the most goods in the world.
We import about the same amount as the #3, #4, and #5 top importers in the world combined.

If our government forces a US first philosophy on trade (P!), we could be fricked over by the same practices by other countries during this crisis.

I dont think you can look forward more than 5 minutes into the future.

China hoards and they are the devil. But you cheer the same practices for the US? Hypocrite much?
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4157 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:56 pm to
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Do you see any possibility that this could backfire?
I don't think people realize how reliant we are on China.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74678 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:02 pm to
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I don't think people realize how reliant we are on China.


And vice versa. We are China's #1 Custamah.

But this should certainly bring alot of manufacturing back to the US for many things. Not all things, hell not even most things, but alot of things. And this is very very good for our economy. And national security. It's something Trump (and many conservatives before him) have been trying to get done for a long time, and now they've got enough buy-in from across the aisle to get it done. I hope.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:24 pm to
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government forces a US first philosophy on trade (P!), we could be fricked over by the same practices by other countries during this crisis.


I am specifically talking about this current situation. Knowing we were already short of needed PPE, you damn sure don’t send a lot of it away 6 weeks before you need it for yourself. That’s completely irresponsible.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26294 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:28 pm to
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I am specifically talking about this current situation. Knowing we were already short of needed PPE, you damn sure don’t send a lot of it away 6 weeks before you need it for yourself. That’s completely irresponsible.


Where do you think hydrochloriquine is made?
Zpacks?
Thousands of other drugs?

You're being irresponsible.
More americans would die if India cuts us off because we withheld a plane load of gloves.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26294 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:29 pm to
1.5M americans have lupus.

A good percentage of then die if they cant get hydrochloroquine.
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