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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:36 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:36 am to DawgsLife
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Check the link. It's from an entertainment magazine. I'm not sure i would take it as gospel truth. It's very difficult to know what is truth and what is not...from liberal or conservative outlets.
I saw the tweets from a NYC council chair on health:
“According to Levine, between 200 and 215 people are dying at home every day (the city normally averages 20 to 25), and very few of those bodies are being tested for the coronavirus, meaning the true death toll is likely higher than 2,475.”
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:38 am to djsdawg
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And insane people like you feel personally attacked by this.
We had a reasonable discourse up to this point.
Unfortunately you have resorted to personal attacks.
I won't be reading or replying to any of your future posts.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:44 am to IT_Dawg
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There is no point to address. You now went full retard and think he should have done something in OCTOBER.
Look up crimson contagion Idiot Trumper. Don’t ignore it like trump did. Find a cure for your TWS.
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what you are saying, is that something that kills 35,000-80,000 EVERY YEAR, is not worthy of social distancing, but this scary bug is..okay
We probably wouldn’t be social distancing for Covid if we had a vaccine for it.
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No Trump didn't do enough, but somehow limited to less than a bad flu season for deaths....
This makes it seem like You think this is over. It’s not close to over.
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we should be spending $6T every time a new bug com
Nope. When you Have better testing like SK and more PPE ready, you don’t have to shut the nation down like we have.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:48 am to GurleyGirl
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had a reasonable discourse up to this point.
Unfortunately you have resorted to personal attacks.
I won't be reading or replying to any of your future posts.
That’s fine. Would be great if you would keep your insane thoughts out of this thread to go Along with not responding to me. Little rig brain and Idiot Trumper have the market cornered.
Btw, A justified critique on trump isn’t an attack on you. Quit being such a snowflake. Quit making excuses for trump.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:52 am to DawgsLife
Quote from the Gotham article below.
"As of Monday afternoon, 2,738 New York City residents have died from ‘confirmed’ cases of COVID-19, according to the city Department of Health. That’s an average of 245 a day since the previous Monday.
But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office."
So you think the NYC medical examiners' office is lying?
"As of Monday afternoon, 2,738 New York City residents have died from ‘confirmed’ cases of COVID-19, according to the city Department of Health. That’s an average of 245 a day since the previous Monday.
But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office."
So you think the NYC medical examiners' office is lying?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:58 am to djsdawg
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“According to Levine, between 200 and 215 people are dying at home every day (the city normally averages 20 to 25), and very few of those bodies are being tested for the coronavirus, meaning the true death toll is likely higher than 2,475.”
It very well could be...I don't know. By the same token, I saw where the government is counting all deaths as Covid19 deaths if the victims have been diagnosed with Covid19, even if they have had other underlying issues that may have caused the death.
That very well could offset the figures you are mentioning. I honestly don't know...but when we enter the realm of guessing it can open the door to biases.
That said, I suspect the numbers may be higher, but not appreciably. You have one group of people trying to pump the numbers up and another group of people trying to suppress the numbers. When this is happening it makes the truth ambiguous at best.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:04 am to DawgsLife
I think the death toll competition is interesting to watch. On one hand, the statistics show that other deaths are dropping off statistically way beyond the norm (Pneumonia, heart attacks, strokes, etc.) as they are being included in COVID numbers. This would mean the COVID death rate is overstated. To counter, now there are allegedly suddenly scores of people dying in their homes that have no been tested, meaning the COVID death rate is understated. Pick your player as the politics continues over people dying.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:04 am to Whiznot
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But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office."
So you think the NYC medical examiners' office is lying?
No. I am saying that there could be a lot of reasons for this. You do not just say, "before the pandemic we had this many deaths, and after the Pandemic we have this many deaths, therefore the difference in deaths must be attributed to the pandemic!"
The scientific community would laugh at you in your face, if you made a statement like that.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:07 am to Broncothor
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I think the death toll competition is interesting to watch. On one hand, the statistics show that other deaths are dropping off statistically way beyond the norm (Pneumonia, heart attacks, strokes, etc.) as they are being included in COVID numbers. This would mean the COVID death rate is overstated. To counter, now there are allegedly suddenly scores of people dying in their homes that have no been tested, meaning the COVID death rate is understated. Pick your player as the politics continues over people dying.
Whiz? Did you see this? Obviously the coronavirus cures heart attacks, Pneumonia and strokes, because those deaths have gone down since Corona broke out.
That is the logic you are wanting us to ascribe to in your post above.
Again...I think there is plenty of blame to go around....on both sides of the aisle. It's easy to point fingers. Just imagine how many of those deaths could have been avoided if the New York mayor and the Governor of New York had not been encouraging people to go to concerts, the movies and parades and had encouraged people to stay at home. Or had they closed their schools down instead of keeping them open when the rest of the country was closing their schools down.
See how the blame game goes?
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:10 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:09 am to DawgsLife
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No. I am saying that there could be a lot of reasons for this.
It’s a safe assumption to make.
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By the same token, I saw where the government is counting all deaths as Covid19 deaths if the victims have been diagnosed with Covid19, even if they have had other underlying issues that may have caused the death.
As they should. If Covid contributes to a death, it should be on the death certificate
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:11 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:10 am to djsdawg
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It’s a safe assumption to make.
No, it isn't.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:12 am to djsdawg
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As they should. If Covid contributes to a death, it should be on the death certificate
Gotta pump those numbers up, must please the Jungle Obelisk. No want Obelisk have anger.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:13 am to djsdawg
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It’s a safe assumption to make.
Then is it a safe assumption to say since heart attacks, Pneumonia and stoke deaths have gone down since Coronavirus got here, that the Corona Virus has helped with those?
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:14 am to djsdawg
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As they should. If Covid contributes to a death, it should be on the death certificate
But they don't know if it did.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:15 am to DawgsLife
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No. I am saying that there could be a lot of reasons for this. You do not just say, "before the pandemic we had this many deaths, and after the Pandemic we have this many deaths, therefore the difference in deaths must be attributed to the pandemic!"
According to a source of someone that read a source from an open blog, I heard that the increase of deaths is in fact from depression and the inability for anyone to take them to get help because people were told not to leave their bunkers or assist with anything but sewing masks at home. This 7th handed informant indicated the deaths from other reasons outside COVID would quadruple the number who died from a direct complication of COVID-19. Expect up 75,000 deaths this year in NYC alone because of the actions Trump took to lockdown society.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:19 am to IT_Dawg
It is amazing to me the information that is being passed around as fact is based upon speculation, guesses and plain old misinformation that comes from someone on a blog.
I am not trying to downplay the seriousness of this. I am only surprised at the number of people that seem to want more people to die from it for political "Gotchas!".
Thing is...I don't believe that Djs or Whiz want people to actually die, but the do seem to want the numbers to be counted higher than they actually are.
I am not trying to downplay the seriousness of this. I am only surprised at the number of people that seem to want more people to die from it for political "Gotchas!".
Thing is...I don't believe that Djs or Whiz want people to actually die, but the do seem to want the numbers to be counted higher than they actually are.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:23 am to DawgsLife
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they don't know if it did.
It attack’s organs in the body, so They have a damn good idea.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:29 am to Crowknowsbest
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it isn't.
How so? There is a very deadly outbreak in nyc hospitals and a sudden dramatic increase of deaths inside nyc homes.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:30 am to deeprig9
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Gotta pump those numbers up
Just like they do with flu numbers, right? Don’t be such a hypocrite.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:33 am to djsdawg
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Just like they do with flu numbers, right?
Old people who die of pneumonia (before covid) simply had cause of death pnuemonia, whether it was flu, cold, other respiratory infection from bacteria, etc. Now with covid, the examinors and health departments are making damn sure to count every possible covid death they can. This is not done with flu. Therefore, actual flu deaths among elderly are probably much higher than what gets officially reported. The CDC explains this on their flu page archived from 2018.
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