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re: Offense sucks, Defense is legit.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 7:56 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 10/30/16 at 7:56 am to DawgsLife
I was embarrassed. I'm not one of the idiots demanding they mail refunds for games attended but this season really has been a joke. Old women and children can tell what the problem is as it's so large it can be seen from Mars.
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:12 am to RhodeDawg
Defense was average.
Remember, Florida has a pretty terrible offense, yet they completed >50% of 3rd down conversions.
Mel Tucker is a stupid coach.
Remember, Florida has a pretty terrible offense, yet they completed >50% of 3rd down conversions.
Mel Tucker is a stupid coach.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:25 am to RhodeDawg
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Offense sucks, Defense is legit.
Reasonable statement. Our defense is ranked #18 in Total Defense compared to our offense ranked #100. But yea, they were playing against a mediocre Florida offense ranked #75. The game turned out pretty much as I expected in a defensive battle of strength vs weakness. The problem for Georgia: our weakness, offense, could only manage 21 rushing yards and 8 first downs against Florida's #2 ranked defense. Unlike our game vs Vandy, Florida won almost every aspect of the game including: first downs, 20, rushing yards, 100, total yards, 231, time of possession, 37:27 and special teams. In other words, we got whipped by a better team.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:45 am to GurleyGirl
My point in posting this thread was to look at this team and coaching in a reasonable way. The difference in defense and offense in this game was noticeable.
Pittman was hailed as a great Oline coach when we got him. Even if our Oline talent is lacking...the play of our Oline has been suspect from the beginning and was ridiculously bad yesterday. JE had no time whatsoever.
I'm starting to think that CKS will need to make coaching changes on offense... Maybe an entirely new staff on that side of the ball. Beamer is TEs and STs coach- he'd be the first to go. We have too much talent at TE to have zero results from that group. And special teams...please; we had better STs with NO ST COACH.
Pittman was hailed as a great Oline coach when we got him. Even if our Oline talent is lacking...the play of our Oline has been suspect from the beginning and was ridiculously bad yesterday. JE had no time whatsoever.
I'm starting to think that CKS will need to make coaching changes on offense... Maybe an entirely new staff on that side of the ball. Beamer is TEs and STs coach- he'd be the first to go. We have too much talent at TE to have zero results from that group. And special teams...please; we had better STs with NO ST COACH.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:45 am to RhodeDawg
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Even if our Oline talent is lacking...the play of our Oline has been suspect from the beginning and was ridiculously bad yesterday. JE had no time whatsoever.
When your foundation is weak, your house will not stand. Honestly, I think it is hard to assess the quality of our current coaching staff until we able to recruit better in the trenches and frankly in a number of other key positions.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:59 am to GaDawg9977
So you choose one stat to say we have a bad D?
Some of you are so clueless about football. It's pathetic.
Some of you are so clueless about football. It's pathetic.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:03 am to RhodeDawg
You could probably attribute a couple of their scores to field position handed tomUF by our offense and kicking game.......or lack thereof.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:22 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Osborne stop being a cck sucker. You know as well as I do that stat is a good indicator of defensive performance. No I didn't research all of the other stats but I know what I see with my eyes. Why don't you check the other major d stats and post them to see who's opinion is supported regarding our d being legit or not.
This team reminds me of the Rec girls softball team I coach. They are so bad and we lose every game that anytime the tiniest thing goes right we feel we have to blow it up like they just won the World Series just to keep them "encouraged". This team blows from the top down but we still have the rainbow pumpers to deal with.
This team reminds me of the Rec girls softball team I coach. They are so bad and we lose every game that anytime the tiniest thing goes right we feel we have to blow it up like they just won the World Series just to keep them "encouraged". This team blows from the top down but we still have the rainbow pumpers to deal with.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:26 am to TMDawg
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I'm honestly not sure we watched the same game
Clarification on my part, then. We have been struggling against the likes of Vanderbilt, Missouri, South Carolina and Nicholls. All bad to very bad teams. We faced a pretty decent Florida team and i felt we were in the game until midway in the 4th quarter. For me that is improvement.
The team showed more passion, seemed to know where they should be on the field and did not look lost. It just appeared as if they were on the same page as the coaching staff.
We are not anywhere near where we want to be. We have a long way to go, however, I thought I saw definite improvement. This game and the Tennessee game was the most complete game we have seen this year.
NOTE: I didn't say it was a complete game....I said it was the most complete game we have seen to this point.
VERY few people expected us to beat Florida yesterday. I am amused by the melt because we lost.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:42 am to GaDawg9977
18th in total D
13th in rushing D
54th in passing D
But keep being an uneducated bitch when it comes to football and using the "eyeball" test as your measuring stick. Stupid frick.
And we're not discussing if they are legit, although they have been the last few games. Your dumbass said they weren't even ok. Don't change the goalposts to fit your argument after the fact.
13th in rushing D
54th in passing D
But keep being an uneducated bitch when it comes to football and using the "eyeball" test as your measuring stick. Stupid frick.
And we're not discussing if they are legit, although they have been the last few games. Your dumbass said they weren't even ok. Don't change the goalposts to fit your argument after the fact.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:46 am to DawgsLife
quote:Different experiences for different viewers I guess, even when we were up 10-7 or so, it just felt like a game we weren't going to win. We couldn't move the ball aside from one drive and it felt like we were fighting to keep it close while waiting for the inevitable breaking of the dam.
i felt we were in the game until midway in the 4th quarter. For me that is improvement.
And it seems like most people aren't really melting over losing to UF. Most of what I've seen has been concern over the lack of improvement and the absolute putrid state of our offense. It's so bad that even averaging about 30 yards per punt isn't even brought up much.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:55 am to TMDawg
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Different experiences for different viewers I guess, even when we were up 10-7 or so, it just felt like a game we weren't going to win.
See...I thought we actually might win. We played tough. kept them close. Stayed in position to win the game. My biggest gripe was doing the soccer kicks to keep the ball away from Callaway. We gave them the ball around the 50 yard line too many times.
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And it seems like most people aren't really melting over losing to UF. Most of what I've seen has been concern over the lack of improvement and the absolute putrid state of our offense.
Actually, you are correct. that is what they are complaining about. The offense was not great. I just don't think it is as bad as many others seem. I still believe Chaney's hands are tied somewhat by Eason's lack of experience. I felt like as a team we looked a bit better. not earth shakingly better, but better. Progress.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:00 am to DawgsLife
I used to have the time to calculate such things... but I wonder what our defense stats look like on a per snap basis, instead of per game. That is alot more fair to judge a defense, take into account your offense going 3 and out over and over and over again.
Defense A gave up 400 yards and 40 pts on 70 plays.
Defense B gave up 350 yards and 35 pts on 50 plays.
The way stats are done now, Defense B is considered better.
But if you do the math, Defense A is actually better.
Grantham was a victim of this math in 2013.
I would wager that our defense right now, if you broke down the numbers based on how many plays they've defended, is close to top ten and in the top tier of the SEC.
Defense A gave up 400 yards and 40 pts on 70 plays.
Defense B gave up 350 yards and 35 pts on 50 plays.
The way stats are done now, Defense B is considered better.
But if you do the math, Defense A is actually better.
Grantham was a victim of this math in 2013.
I would wager that our defense right now, if you broke down the numbers based on how many plays they've defended, is close to top ten and in the top tier of the SEC.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:02 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Left off a biggy
Scoring defense #54
I can understand why you left that off since it hurts your argument. I see what you did there.....
Either way our D is not "legit".
Scoring defense #54
I can understand why you left that off since it hurts your argument. I see what you did there.....
Either way our D is not "legit".
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:08 am to deeprig9
Agree. Our D is a victim of the offense sucking
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:13 am to GaDawg9977
Did I say we are legit? No.
The argument is whether they are an ok D which you said they aren't. Stop trying to move the goalposts like a bitch.
And again, you are pretty damn ignorant about the game if you think our scoring D isn't affected by our O.
The argument is whether they are an ok D which you said they aren't. Stop trying to move the goalposts like a bitch.
And again, you are pretty damn ignorant about the game if you think our scoring D isn't affected by our O.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:16 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I never said the O wasn't effecting the D, obviously it is. I guess you have to define "ok", I just see nothing special.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:37 am to GaDawg9977
Ok? Middle of the pack. Although they have played pretty dang good the last three games.
If you compare the points per game with the yards per game it's seems pretty obvious that the O and special teams are putting them in bad positions
If you compare the points per game with the yards per game it's seems pretty obvious that the O and special teams are putting them in bad positions
Posted on 10/30/16 at 12:30 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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it's seems pretty obvious that the O and special teams are putting them in bad positions
Yeah UF starting field position was at midfield most of the day. Punting didn't help at ALL!
Posted on 10/30/16 at 12:32 pm to RhodeDawg
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Yeah UF starting field position was at midfield most of the day. Punting didn't help at ALL!
Yep, our punting average was 32 yards with both Long and Ramsey. Blankenship is looking to be a good/reliable FG kicker and kickoff specialist be we need to find a good punter.
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