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re: Natrez Patrick supposedly failed his post arrest drug test.

Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:18 am to
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:18 am to
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should have been illegal and only is because state reps are old and out of touch with the 21st century.


no

weed is illegal because of DuPont and their plastics

hemp was too much for them to compete with; hence the "marijuana madness"

Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:21 am to
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Another example of why you are such a shite poster.


clearly we should all strive to attain your message board brilliance

having said that; perhaps you can explain to the class how a lawful drug test administered by the government is the fault of anyone associated with the University of Georgia

thanks
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:28 am to
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no

weed is illegal because of DuPont and their plastics

hemp was too much for them to compete with; hence the "marijuana madness"


We can debate the legality of weed all day long. I think most people here, myself included, are pretty relaxed about it. We all agree that the rules/policies should be lightened, if not completely abolished. The only point I'm making here is that we have what we have until it gets changed. And Natrez (along with all players) know the policies and they know the penalties before they ever set foot on campus. I fully understand that these rules suck. But until they change, you have to live with them.

And I have no concern for how many times you smoke weed, but if you're a player and you've already gotten yourself caught once or twice and you know that the next offense is dismissal, why in the ever loving frick do you play with fire and smoke it again AND leave your home (or wherever) in a car? If you're gonna do it and you just can't help yourself, are you telling me that you can't find a smarter way to go about it and not get caught? Getting into a car with it was the first mistake. Speeding was the next one. At what point does the light bulb go off in your head that tells you "Hey, we don't need to get stopped by the cops...let's slow it down." Better yet, smoke the shite at HOME. Don't leave your damn house!

This is NOT rocket science. It isn't difficult.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:29 am to
Devils cabbage
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:30 am to
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dawgsjw


says that

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WG_Dawg


is a

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shite poster


Dude. WG has a LOT more clout here than you do. Take that shite somewhere else.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:32 am to
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This has nothing to do with UGA


So if Natrez pipe bombed the state capital and is arrested by the Feds he shouldn't get suspended because its not a UGA matter?

He was arrested and subsequently tested positive - not sure whether it was a UGA test or not is relevant.
Posted by Dawgfan77
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:36 am to
We really need to stop talking about these player arrests. If our fan base would stop talking about it for 2 weeks, the story would die. All our beat writers want to stir it up but if we don’t read their crappy sensationalism, they would stop writing about it.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:38 am to
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So if Natrez pipe bombed the state capital and is arrested by the Feds he shouldn't get suspended because its not a UGA matter?

He was arrested and subsequently tested positive - not sure whether it was a UGA test or not is relevant.


I think you're on the same page, actually. If I am to understand WG correctly, he is simply saying that the present issues here are not UGA's fault. The policy might suck, so on that front, UGA needs to reevaluate how it deals with these things relative to other conference schools; however, UGA is not responsible for Natrez making stupid choices.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:39 am
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:39 am to
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We can debate the legality of weed all day long


I am not debating whether or not weed should be legal; just pointing out the main reason that it was made illegal in the 1st place

quote:

The only point I'm making here is that we have what we have until it gets changed. And Natrez (along with all players) know the policies and they know the penalties before they ever set foot on campus. I fully understand that these rules suck. But until they change, you have to live with them.


I can't disagree with this & have said as much (in the other thread)

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if you're a player and you've already gotten yourself caught once or twice and you know that the next offense is dismissal, why in the ever loving frick do you play with fire and smoke it again AND leave your home (or wherever) in a car?


no answer other than idiocy & foolishness

and maybe a feeling of invincibility - kid is a dumbass

he clearly deserves to be kicked off the team and kicked out of school

he basically violated a contract - you get free school, room & board and meals; plus an opportunity to showcase yourself for a 6 or 7 figure income

all that is asked of you in return is that you pass your classes, play football and follow the law

seems pretty fricking simple



quote:

This is NOT rocket science. It isn't difficult.


yep
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
32917 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:45 am to
SicEm, Let me save you some time....

You need to understand what’s really going on here. Which is simply that weed legalization is now the official Virtue Signaling issue for trendy poser dorks.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

They don’t want to deal in common sense because common sense doesn’t make you the super trendy victim of boogie men weed oppressors. Does that make sense?

Anyway, the whole thing is comical and more need to learn to appreciate the hilarity of it so we can make a sport out of laughing at them.

Take an aggressively dull and basic tool bag like Barstools for instance. Name any stereotypical boogie man group, real or not, and you can set your watch to his condemnation of them. The funny part though he himself is the predictable robot working off a cookie cutter douche syllabus. It’s amazing. He IS what he claims to hate.

For real, dude. Look at these people!
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:51 am to
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I can't disagree with this & have said as much (in the other thread)


You're correct and I was not intending to unload on you. I was lumping a lot into one reply that happened to be to your post. My bad on that.

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and maybe a feeling of invincibility - kid is a dumbass


You're right. The question is, WHY? When you've been hit for it twice already, clearly you are nothing close to "invincible". Some people are just stupid.

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he basically violated a contract - you get free school, room & board and meals; plus an opportunity to showcase yourself for a 6 or 7 figure income

all that is asked of you in return is that you pass your classes, play football and follow the law


And that is exactly it, in a nutshell. What gets me is how many people are willing to readily give out all the "get out of jail free" passes needed to keep the guy on the field. No one will do that for you. They won't do it for your kids. Your wife. No one. These kids are already getting more things handed to them on a silver platter in 3 to 4 years than most of us will in our lifetimes, yet we want to sweep even more things under the rug for them when they screw up. Just doesn't make sense to me.

I want us to WIN as much as anyone. But where do we draw the line?


That said, the poster above is correct. It's time to let this topic die and quit feeding the media more negative news about us.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:57 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:17 am to
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Jefferson Dawg


The root cause to this is that most people have low self awareness or the capacity for critical thinking. They can't look at their own positions critically.

Many of the same folks that think cops are pricks and out to get you for weed busts will defend them when they shoot some kid under questionable circumstances and have no issue with them arming up with military gear. Because both are the popular position.

Same thing with claiming to be a conservative but also supportive of us sending troops to fight and bomb people all over the world. Or being for small government but supporting $1B new stadiums funded by debt. The list is endless.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:21 am to
I give zero shits about the debate going on here. All I wanna know is how he failed the test the authorities gave him yet passed one at the university?
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:25 am to
I'd like to know this too. Maybe Peter Buck slipped him one of those visine bottles of clean piss before his test.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:42 am to
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I give zero shits about the debate going on here. All I wanna know is how he failed the test the authorities gave him yet passed one at the university?


this question has been answered I believe

but I will answer it again - there are 2 possibilities that seem to be most likely that have been suggested/discussed

1 - weed takes a few hours to work it's way into the blood stream & digestive tract. since the university administered the test almost immediately; it is very possible that he had used, but that the test was given before the substance had worked it's way into his system

2 - he was clean & given a test & knew he would pass, after the test, he thought he was done & in the clear, so he "partied" in celebration & subsequently got caught on the next (unexpected) test

there is also a 3rd possibility - I can absolutely believe that the University administered test is predictable & that the players that use have figured out how to beat it; but have not figured out how to beat the state's test; OR that the state test was a big surprise & he did not have time to take steps to beat it

I hope this answers your question
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 10:43 am
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:56 am to
Natrez aside, all UGA athletes and coaches best take note; if a case is relevant to the success of their team, the Athens Clark County solicitor will go out of their way to make adverse events known to the media.

Patrick's lawyer said this information is not normally made public, but I guess the solicitor thought there was an urgent need-to-know in this case. The quick retest and news dissemination is another example of how local law enforcement for athletes in Athens is quite different from other places.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:14 am to
Well said halgren
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:15 am to
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I personally never touch the stuff but bodybuilders and athletes say it soothes the pain of damaged muscles. Way better than lortab or other opoid based narcotics for you.


This ×100, these kids are coached to be physical and hit world class athletes repeatively. I don't blame them for smoking a joint. Especially with the opiod epedemic going on in our country. I think legalizing grass would save lives no doubt
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16977 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:21 am to
Well it's definitely more fun than ibuprofen.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38304 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:21 am to
It would but this nation has too many paranoid Jeff sessions worshippers like Jefferson, so it ain't happening.
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