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Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:46 pm to deeprig9
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We should be scoring 35 points a game, period.
35 is a good middle number. You score more than that and your defense is going to start suffering.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:47 pm to DawgsLife
Are you playing games with my head right now?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:49 pm to DawgsLife
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35 is a good middle number. You score more than that and your defense is going to start suffering.
This has to be satire.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:51 pm to deeprig9
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Are you playing games with my head right now?
No.
Why?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:52 pm to VADawg
How many would you like to score? About what Oklahoma was scoring in 2017?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:53 pm to deeprig9
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It was Gary Danielson's favorite commentary when calling our games for the last two seasons
I can’t stand the dude. Would be fine with me if his tongue fell out and couldn’t talk again. But man I agreed with him so many times this past season. It was so bad I started bashing myself
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:54 pm to DawgsLife
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About what Oklahoma was scoring in 2017?
If that defense had the talent that ours did, they win the national title rather easily that season. Having an elite offense does not prevent you from having a great defense.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:54 pm to swdawg
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I can’t stand the dude. Would be fine with me if his tongue fell out and couldn’t talk again. But man I agreed with him so many times this past season. It was so bad I started bashing myself
I know what you mean. I mean, who does he think he is acting like he knows something about football?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:56 pm to DawgsLife
Ok so you are being silly, you almost got me. But you have to get up pretty early in the afternoon to fool me.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:06 pm to DawgsLife
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35 is a good middle number. You score more than that and your defense is going to start suffering.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:07 pm to deeprig9
Actually. I am more of a fan of a balanced offense/defense situation. I don't think it is good to go out and just try to put up a ton of scores and try to hold on on defense. I mean, LSU got away with it this past year, and nobody got close to them. But typically a teams offense will hit a speed bump somewhere along the way and get shut down. If their defense can't stop the other team....
I guess LSU was just lucky that Auburn had no offense whatsoever to take advantage of their (LSU's0 defense.
By the time we faced LSU all the injuries we had hurt us along with the LSU defense jelled.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:12 pm to DawgsLife
I'm just not sure where the logic comes from that if we're up 45-10 our defense will start suffering.
The dream of every defensive coordinator in the world is to have an offense that puts them up so much all they have to defend for the rest of the game is an opposing team passing to try and catch up/come back.
Turning a team one-dimensional is the greatest benefit to a defense ever.
*shrug*
The dream of every defensive coordinator in the world is to have an offense that puts them up so much all they have to defend for the rest of the game is an opposing team passing to try and catch up/come back.
Turning a team one-dimensional is the greatest benefit to a defense ever.
*shrug*
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:19 pm to BeefDawg
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The dream of every defensive coordinator in the world is to have an offense that puts them up so much all they have to defend for the rest of the game is an opposing team passing to try and catch up/come back.
Turning a team one-dimensional is the greatest benefit to a defense ever.
You don't have to get into a track meet to turn a team one dimensional. Defensive coaches love for their offense to take the ball and work it down the field and score taking time off the clock. Obviously they want to offense to be good enough to put points on the board, but they do not necessarily want to see their defense out on the field all game long.
When is the last time you have seen a high powered offense that also had a great defense?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:24 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Uhh, Clemson was just the #4 offense in the country and the #2 defense.
You don't have to get into a track meet to turn a team one dimensional. Defensive coaches love for their offense to take the ball and work it down the field and score taking time off the clock. Obviously they want to offense to be good enough to put points on the board, but they do not necessarily want to see their defense out on the field all game long.
When is the last time you have seen a high powered offense that also had a great defense?
OSU was the #2 offense and #3 defense.
This isn't at all uncommon.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:30 pm to VADawg
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It does. However, regardless of the circumstances, being #6 in the country in red zone FGs is a huge, huge problem. It means you can't finish in the red zone.
The A&M game is a great example. There was no reason whatsoever for that to be a nail biter late. It should have been over 10 minutes into the 1st quarter.
You used that data point to define the word atrocious in this context.
When you are #11 in the NCAA in victory margin and you are kicking a lot of field goals, how does this support the use of the word atrocious? Does atrocious mean strategy where y’all come from? Maybe that is where we are having a lack of understanding here.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:31 pm to BeefDawg
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Uhh, Clemson was just the #4 offense in the country and the #2 defense.
Very rare thing to do and more of a product of playing in the ACC. However, Clemson is closer to the type of offense/defense setup I like.
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OSU was the #2 offense and #3 defense.
And when they played each other....29-23.
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This isn't at all uncommon.
It is if we are talking about big time offensive teams. The BIG 12 type offenses.
How many SEC teams played a better game against LSU than Oklahoma and Clemson? 3? 4? More?
It's more a matter of preference and opinion. it's okay if we disagree.
I have to go. have a good evening.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:12 pm to Peter Buck
frick all that too. It's not unreasonable to expect our 1's to average 28 points a game, with the 2's averaging another in garbage time.
23 points a game we averaged, thats not good. But for the #1 scoring defense in all of ncaa, we are probably a 9-4 team right now.
23 points a game we averaged, thats not good. But for the #1 scoring defense in all of ncaa, we are probably a 9-4 team right now.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:12 pm to deeprig9
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frick all that too. It's not unreasonable to expect our 1's to average 28 points a game, with the 2's averaging another in garbage time.
23 points a game we averaged, thats not good. But for the #1 scoring defense in all of ncaa, we are probably a 9-4 team right now.
Kicking field goals when you are up and not letting the opposing team score is a winning strategy. If our defense wasn’t as good, we would likely have had a higher scoring average as we would have been less conservative and not running out clock the end of the game. It is a silly data point to use offensive scoring to support the argument that the offense was “atrocious”. Especially for a team that won as much as they did and by an average of 10 points. This really goes to a bigger issue we have with some posters here, who don’t seem to know the definition of certain words... and use them in a fit of emotional exaggeration ...which really makes us all look bad.
Of course, there were issues with the offense this year. They certainly could have played better. Based on their overall performance, it is likely changes will be made in the 2020 offense outside of just players. I don’t think anyone would argue that... Just stop sounding like bitches on full flow days. We should all be better than this...
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:22 pm to Peter Buck
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Of course, there were issues with the offense this year. They certainly could have played better. Based on their overall performance, it is likely changes will be made in the 2020 offense outside of just players. I don’t think anyone would argue that... Just stop sounding like bitches on full flow days. We should all be better than this...
So just that we're clear, there's problems that existed, that are going to be fixed on the offense, because when I sit down with Carmine, this is going to be the focus. I just want to make sure we are all on the same page here. I don't want to have anything misrepresented and whatnot. The path has to be clear.
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