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re: Let's get political!

Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:07 pm to
Great discussion guys. Keep it up. This is what this thread is all about
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:54 am to
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None of that has anything to do with Trump becoming president.


Has everything to do with it.

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I am aware of the environment in NYC in the 70's and 80's


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Nor does it make his father one.


I am talking about the 1920's and beyond. Trump's daddy was partners with Tomasello and other known (and some silent) folks in a different trade than real estate. The son's lawyer and mentor was the mobs lawyer and mentor.

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That doesn't make Trump a "mob guy".


Again, know your actual history. The "military" school DJT attended was also the school attended by the mobs kids. My memory may be a bit slow, but pretty sure John Gotti's kid was there as well as other mob kids.

The family moved from the old neighborhood to Jamaica, Queens. The same place where the mid and upper level mob guys wound up living

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Giuliani took down the mob in NYC and Trump hired him as his personal atty and advisor.

That doesn't sound like something a mobster would do.


DJT's original attorney was the attorney I posted above and he WAS the mob's attorney. That attorney's mantra ...

Deny, Deny, Deny
Delay, Delay, Delay
Reset the narrative by the time the case gets to court

Is classic DJT

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Giuliani took down the mob in NYC


The same time the Russian mob took over. Moving the "known" old guys out and replacing them with the "unknown" new guys was the transfer of power from the Italians to the Russians. DJT has been stooge to Putin all along. Name any other POTUS who bent over for the Russians like DJT.

DJT is not a businessman
DJT is not a politician

DJT is just like the 50's and 60's era "Dons" in manner and attire. If it walks, talks, and looks like a duck, chances are it is a duck. One of my "uncles" from the old neighborhood was in the cement business. Growing up as the area around Hollywood, Florida it was all the same guys from the East Coast and the same guys later in Nevada. These were not just guys on the news, but guys you knew from the old neighborhoods. I know folks think history is what the internet says, but folks that were actually there know the true history.

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mind is poisoned by bullshite


Well that is true, but BS comes from the modern media, not me. Perhaps it is your mind that is poisoned. You said you worked in the film industry, you should have seen first hand the truth. Craft services were better for the union guys that the primary talent. That is not an accident or coincidence.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:02 am to
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the sheep are too divided by their handlers.


This is not by chance.

The Founding Fathers had a 2 party system
The Federalist (our current Billionaire Class)
The Democratic - Republicans (currently everybody else)

Nothing has changed, just gotten more weighted over time as the bonded slaves (from Europe) and the bound slaves (from Africa) have become the combined "wage" slaves of today. Georgia was a penal colony and predecessor to the "Transportation" system that grew to seed Australia.

USA is strong for the people when united
USA is weak for the people when divided

If a handful of the wealthy (from either current party) keep us divided, that is how they keep control. This is not rocket science.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:06 am to
Gotti's oldest child is 18 years younger than Trump. How could they go to school together?
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:13 pm to
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Gotti's oldest child is 18 years younger than Trump. How could they go to school together?


How can your kid go to Georgia 18 years after you did?

Mob kid(s) = plural, not singular

Not a single year
Not a 4 year high school cycle

Multi generational
DJT in one generation
JGJ in another generation
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75305 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:13 pm to
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How can your kid go to Georgia 18 years after you did?


So DJT went to the same military academy that Gotti Jr went to, but 18 years apart. DJT also hired Ray Cohn who represented all of the big shots in NYC, including George Steinbrenner, other actors, singers, musicians.

Therefore, DJT is a mobster.

Got it.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
62181 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:23 pm to
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So DJT went to the same military academy that Gotti Jr went to, but 18 years apart.


It was not just the two of them, the school had history

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DJT also hired Ray Cohn who represented all of the big shots in NYC, including George Steinbrenner, other actors, singers, musicians.


Roy (not Ray) was almost two decades older and his bread and butter were the mob. While Roy hobnobbed with celebrities he was mentor to DJT, that was not accidental. Roy was not a great lawyer or litigator, he was a fixer. That is the guy in the bag to get folks out of the fire.

Some of Roy's Mafia clients
Tony Salerno
Carmine Galante
John Gotti
Paul Castellano
Mario Gigante


DJT was much more than a client.

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Therefore, DJT is a mobster.


No, a real mob guy has to make his bones, DJT is just a "wanna be" and doubtful he has the stones to do his own dirty work. My old man was not in the mob, but as they all grew up in the old neighborhood, he knew most of them personally from childhood. Fred was not in the mob, he was the front to launder their business proceeds.

I know this does not fit the narrative you prefer, but it does not mean it is wrong. Problem is the media repeats the lie over and over till it becomes the truth in the mainstream.
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
1307 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:41 pm to
Thoughts on the new supposed alien release that's coming tomorrow. Rumors of the government reaching out to religious leaders.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16694 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:00 pm to
Harder to be President twice than a mob boss, don't kid yourselves.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20045 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:40 am to
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Thoughts on the new supposed alien release that's coming tomorrow. Rumors of the government reaching out to religious leaders.


With what we’ve seen disclosed recently in the navy pilot footage I have no doubt there is shite going on that we can’t explain..but I’ve always been of that opinion. I personally think the govt should keep it a secret if they don’t know what going on. Some people get angry and dismissive of even the idea of UFO’s being legit as a coping mechanism so I don’t know what the reaction would be to some type of verification of unknown and unexplained activity like this. Plus, I bet whatever it is will be much weirder than we can imagine.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
62181 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:23 pm to
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Harder to be President twice than a mob boss


Dunno.

When you are the boss, you had to make your bones first. Then survive as folks always out to kill you. As POTUS you have Secret Service AND the military watching your back. You cap the POTUS, not like disposing of the body is easy.
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