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re: Ledbetter update: Remains suspended for Ole Miss per Kirby
Posted on 9/21/16 at 5:56 am to Chris_topher
Posted on 9/21/16 at 5:56 am to Chris_topher
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The guy from Mizzou #91 was a standout to me w/ like 7 tackles and a couple of sacks
Is he also highly regarded?
Oh, yeah. He's very highly regarded as a pass rusher.
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:10 am to BoogerSykes
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Carter cant seem to beat any lineman off the ball, its crazy to think that with his abilities.
Seems to more attitude than abilities... Wonder if he is going to pull a "waiting on the draft" mindset and not contribute as hard as he is capable of?
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 6:11 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:15 am to Spaceman Spiff
What does he have to show NFL scouts at this point? Sure he's got awesome measurables but there's very little film of him actually being productive
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:15 am to Spaceman Spiff
What does he have to show NFL scouts at this point? Sure he's got awesome measurables but there's very little film of him actually being productive
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:15 am to Spaceman Spiff
What does he have to show NFL scouts at this point? Sure he's got awesome measurables but there's very little film of him actually being productive
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:44 am to gatorhata9
Wow. that post was so good it had to be said.....and said......and said! 
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:50 am to DawgsLife
Regarding Atkins... It is a sixth sense.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:05 am to tylerdurden24
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(6 games is roughly 50% of the season which is the mandatory amount for a second alcohol related offense being a DUI)
Link? I seem to remember when it happened Kirby saying that it could be as few as two and he would have to do some things to get his spot back.
6 games seems pretty harsh when failing 2 drug tests only results in a suspension of 10% of the season.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:03 am to tylerdurden24
and I thought we got rid of Mark Richt and his high and mighty ways. Coaches are hired to win games...period. Not to develop men...sorry.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:18 am to tylerdurden24
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This well be game #4 he has missed. Seems that he may very well be out until Vandy (6 games is roughly 50% of the season which is the mandatory amount for a second alcohol related offense being a DUI).
And just maybe Ledbetter hasn't done anything to convince Kirby that the suspension should be lessened. When you screw up you have earn your way back onto the playing field.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:55 am to deeprig9
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Regarding Atkins... It is a sixth sense.
Well, I hope you're right!
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:59 am to wizatlanta
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and I thought we got rid of Mark Richt and his high and mighty ways. Coaches are hired to win games...period. Not to develop men...sorry.
It wasn't Mark Richt and his "high and mighty" ways. It's school policy. Richt nor Smart have any leeway.
The only reason there is uncertainty with Ledbetter is people are not sure if the first offense will be counted, since the charges were dropped on a technicality. It is looking right now, that the school is giving Smart a little leeway since the charges were dropped....or maybe he is not doing everything that is being asked, so Smart is stringing the suspension along.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:01 pm to GurleyGirl
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And just maybe Ledbetter hasn't done anything to convince Kirby that the suspension should be lessened. When you screw up you have earn your way back onto the playing field.
This is my guess. Ledbetter was suspended for a couple of games, but Smart wants him to get through his counseling or whatever other strings that have been attached to his return.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:03 pm to Barstools
Look up the UGA student athlete handbook. It explicitly states that if a student commits two alcohol related offenses and if one of them is a DUI, it's a mandatory half season suspension. The argument was always that the charges from the first offense were dropped (never mind that they were dropped on a police reporting technicality; Ledbetter was by all accounts still drunk on the bar patio) and this should be only his first offense. Seems that's not how Kirby is handling it if he was even given that leeway. The nature of the DUI calls for more than 2 games IMO
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:21 pm to tylerdurden24
And it wasn't just the kind of zero tolerance dui where he was underage and blew a .00001
He was sauced and passed out in a busy intersection. Lucky he didn't kill somebody.
He was sauced and passed out in a busy intersection. Lucky he didn't kill somebody.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:50 pm to deeprig9
Damn
Posted on 9/21/16 at 1:35 pm to wizatlanta
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Coaches are hired to win games...period. Not to develop men...sorry.
True enough, but Ledbetter's screw up clearly demonstrates both stupidity and poor discipline, both of which are liabilities on the field.
If the extent of the punishment is just because he was drunk, then yeah, it's getting Richtian. If it is to get him to focus on what he needs to be doing, it may well be worth it.
Plus, as a new coach, it's easier to shithammer the first guy as a pour encourages les autres kind of thing. Establish early that you're a hardass, and then you can back off later. But if you start out slack and then try to toughen up, it's much harder.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:46 pm to tylerdurden24
Handbook says first DUI is 20% of the season. The second DUI is 50% of the season. His first offense was not a DUI so the 20% rule applies. What am I missing here?
Doesn't mention suspension for a level I alcohol offense(possession/consumption). Just mandatory counseling.
Doesn't mention suspension for a level I alcohol offense(possession/consumption). Just mandatory counseling.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:35 pm to Barstools
"The student athlete will be suspended from competition during the athletic season for no less than 30% of the total sport season. If either of the two offenses is a DUI, the competition suspension will be no less than 50% of the total sport season."
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