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re: Justin Fields ran a 4.51 at Nike Camp

Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Posted by DoubleDawg22
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:42 pm to
It’s not really about his ability to run that truly makes him dynamic. People hear running QB’s and automatically think the kid will run and make plays like Michael Vick. Sure that ability is valuable. It’s more valuable the a running QB is able to put the defense in compromising situations and we have more opportunities for explosive plays.

So we can line up with 4 or 5 wide receivers force the defense to stop our pass and we run the ball. All of a sudden 3rd and 5 is really a 3rd and short because we the defense becomes more spread creating more lanes for us to move the ball. (Just one scenario of his impact)

We have the ability to outnumber the defense at all times and force the defense to roll an extra defender in the box and overload. When we do that we are able to run away from the overload (compromised position) or we are able to throw the ball (compromised position).

I would urge you guys not to buy into the hype that Trent Dilfer gave JF because he made similar remarks about Tua. Also, pay no attention to his high school film. Their system and the talent level at his high school did not allow him to do anything close to whatvwe will ask him to do.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:56 pm to
One other huge addition a dual threat QB adds is on a zone read, the LBs sometimes take a split second longer to get to the running back because of the threat of the QB running.

Fwiw, I like Fields a ton. More than I liked Fromm coming in and I was a huge Fromm fan. That being said, he has to prove himself at the collegiate level. There are plenty of Elite 11 MVPs and top ranked QBs that come in and don't prove themselves. I love that Fields came to a place he's going to have to compete. He and Fromm should be awesome pushing each other, and I think that they both have great heads on their shoulders. Same as Eason. It makes the QB competition better and brings the best out of each player.

Regardless, I love the situation we're in going forward. We're establishing ourself as an offensive powerhouse that brings in elite QBs, RBs, OL, and TEs. After the 2019 class, and with what I'm expecting Hardman, Ridley, and Godwin to do this year I think the WRs will get that same love.
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:09 pm to
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One other huge addition a dual threat QB adds is on a zone read, the LBs sometimes take a split second longer to get to the running back because of the threat of the QB running


That’s what I’m saying he will put them in compromising positions. ILB’s are supposed to flow to the TB at any sign of a run play. Ends squeeze holes on everything that runs away from (most of the time) and with Fromm we have to pull a TE around to block a second level defender (LB or sometimes a safety). Fields allows us to run all of our simple run plays but the defense is in a compromised situation because if they flow and squeeze down to hard Fields pulls the ball and is gone for at least a first down.

If he gives the ball the defense gets spread out and their flow is too slow so you take Deandre Swift, Holyfield, White, Cook, or Herrien with creases in the defense and all the defenders are blocked or there is just one defender in a hole that they have to beat. We all know that our backs can beat one guy.

This is a compromised position at all times. If we give the ball and don’t read we aren’t holding anyone accountable and the defense can over play to shut the run down.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 2:12 pm
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:09 pm to
Sorry for all of the long posts. I will stop and resume my trolling posts that get 6 down votes on average.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42629 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:30 pm to
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Sorry for all of the long posts.


This is discussion based. That's what we want here.
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:31 pm to
I’m going to disagree with you because you always disagree with me.


Also, I never read the long posts and I’ve Posted 6 of them today I one topic and they were all dreadfully long. No more!
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:54 pm to
I've agreed with a lot of what you've said today, but of course, they were your long posts and now you're going away from them...
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 3:23 pm to
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If he forces his way on to the Field... then so be it. But no reason for our staff to *rush* him to the field on the flip side of that equation.


This is all I was saying from the beginning. ESPECIALLY if it also preserves a year of eligibility in the however unlikely event he doesn’t bolt after his jr year.
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