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re: JT Daniels
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:08 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:08 am to WG_Dawg
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Look at the playcalling to end the first half just 3 days ago. That was utterly stupid and downright bad playcalling, from monken and kriby. It doesn't mean they suck or should be replaced, but it shows they aren't perfect.
What would you have called?
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:16 am to meansonny
Actually, Kirby and Monkin called a qb draw. Stet checked to a pass. Happens...
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:25 am to WG_Dawg
Well no one on here showed their arse about those other dudes.
You, (collective you) can't just spew shite all the way up until the 4th Q of the last game and then expect it to be forgotten.
You, (collective you) can't just spew shite all the way up until the 4th Q of the last game and then expect it to be forgotten.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:26 am to meansonny
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What would you have called?
I'm pretty risk averse, so knowing we got the ball to start the second half I'd just kneel it out. However, MOnken has proven to be incredible so I had no issues with him wanting to be aggressive and maybe get in field goal range. You'd think that would incorporate downfield passing but we did not.
First down- complete pass for 7 yards. We have 3 timeouts but instead of using one, or hurrying up-tempo like we did on our opening drive, we let 20 seconds tick off before our 2nd and 3.
2nd and 3- incomplete pass. After this, there's less than 20 seconcds left, clock is still stopped, and it's 3rd and 3 on our own 27. Any rational or logical thinking at all would tell you that we likely aren't scoring, and if we do score it's gonna take getting a shite ton of yards quickly. At this point, the ONLY options we should entertain are throwing a bomb deep, or runnign out the clock and going to half.
So what do we do? Throw about a 5 yarder towards the sideline. Let's say dom catches it for the 1st and runs out of bounds. There's still like 15 seconds left and we're on our own 30. Odds of scoring are very low.
It was just increidbly poorly thought out. When we received the ball, like I said above, we should have either 1) been content to jsut go to half and run the clock out, or 2) be aggressive, be fast, move the ball downfield to get in FG range. We did neither. We moved slowly, we didn't go downfield, we just farted around while not taking any time off the clock and gave them the ball back. I'm not even fixated on the fact that hey scored since hindsight is 20/20.My point is that if you have the ball on your own 20 with 40 seconds left before halftime, there is no scenario that should lead to the other team having the ball before half.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:28 am to WG_Dawg
Because we were right and they were wrong. It feels good to be right. Plus stetson is still on the team and JT is still in college. I'm sure next year it will be an afterthought.
Actually probably not. Their, maybe no existant, NFL careers will probably be compared too.
Actually probably not. Their, maybe no existant, NFL careers will probably be compared too.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:51 am to K9
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You, (collective you) can't just spew shite all the way up until the 4th Q of the last game and then expect it to be forgotten.
and that's fine. Give people hell if they deserve it. But it's already November of the following season, when does it end? Nobody is sitll talking about it other than peter mostly. Everyone else has moved on. There's no one to even get onto anymore since nobody is even talking about it anymore. At this point peter is just as bad or even worse than the people he's complainign about
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:13 am to Peter Buck
I still believe JT has a higher ceiling that Stetson.
Last year before the Natty, Stetson showed he couldn't beat Bama losing both games by 17pt and having 4 INT's.
If you thought those performance were still better than what JT brought, you don't watch much football.
JT is on a semi-crappy team right now and no where near the talent GA possess.
So, what you are comparing is apples and oranges
Last year before the Natty, Stetson showed he couldn't beat Bama losing both games by 17pt and having 4 INT's.
If you thought those performance were still better than what JT brought, you don't watch much football.
JT is on a semi-crappy team right now and no where near the talent GA possess.
So, what you are comparing is apples and oranges
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:18 am to Dawg4Life47
JT can't escape worth a shite. And Stet did end up winning the Natty. Remind us his rankings and where he sits in UGA history? Stet > JT
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:30 am to Spaceman Spiff
People like me complaining about Stetson was BEFORE he won the Natty.
Trying to create an argument after that is just stupid because JT transferred anyways
Doesn't change the fact that JT's ceiling is higher amongst scouts
Trying to create an argument after that is just stupid because JT transferred anyways
Doesn't change the fact that JT's ceiling is higher amongst scouts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 10:33 am to WG_Dawg
Nah, those people ruined every damn game thread and still show up in them this year. Olddawg26 wanted to see Beck against MSU.
Peter isn't close to that level
Peter isn't close to that level
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:23 am to K9
1) That is self containd into a game thread, where there are shitty takes abound. You don't see him posting every other day about beck all over the board and in multiple threads. If he's gonna have a questionable take it is at least in a place that will die off shortly and be forgotten about
2) That at LEAST has to do with the present day team in 2022 and what's happening in real time. JT isn't here anymore! There is literally no reason whatsoever to continue to bring that shite up incessantly.
2) That at LEAST has to do with the present day team in 2022 and what's happening in real time. JT isn't here anymore! There is literally no reason whatsoever to continue to bring that shite up incessantly.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:35 am to WG_Dawg
Bingo
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:04 pm to WG_Dawg
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At the beginning of 2021 this was correct, based on the informaiton we had available at the time.
You are correct, WG, and you know I have nothing but respect for you. (I also do not remember you being overly vocal about the situation...maybe a comment or two)
That said it was pointed out many times that the coaches had more information than we did and we should accept their decision rather than criticize it. I clearly remember making posts saying the coaches see them in practice every day and know what they are doing well and what to players are struggling with.
But this all goes back to we should allow the coaches to coach and we can watch and cheer. Nothing wrong with criticizing decisions made in a game, but when it comes to personnel decisions we should trust the people who interact and see the players on a daily basis.
I'll wrap this up by saying it is a subject best left in the past.
quote:Actually Griffindawg did say that. he was one of the first I saw.
all of those people (except griffindawg and I think possibly 1 other) have said "boy stetson really proved us wrong!"
It's time for all of us to move on, imo.
We are doing well and have a decent shot at winning a second title in a row.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:08 pm to WG_Dawg
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It's funny we don't ever see threads about jalen kimber, or brenton cox, or justin robinson, or otis reese, or any other people that are no longer with the program (all of the above BTW transferred within the conference, a couple to a major rival).
That is probably because the people that replaced them was not roundly criticized. These, imo, are reaction to what was said about Bennett more than criticizing Daniels. And I agree with everyone that said JT left the program the right way. He seemed to be a good teammate and supported the team even though, I'm sure, he felt he should have been the choice to start. That's not an easy thing to do.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 12:12 pm to icheerforgeorgia
This seems like a very, very emotional topic.
Seems like some people had an opinion and some people had opinions about that opinion, so everyone with an opinion started clicking up with like opinions.
A real war.
I'd imagine that I have at least one very unpopular opinion myself. Maybe two.
Seems like some people had an opinion and some people had opinions about that opinion, so everyone with an opinion started clicking up with like opinions.
A real war.
I'd imagine that I have at least one very unpopular opinion myself. Maybe two.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 2:08 pm to WG_Dawg
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I'm pretty risk averse, so knowing we got the ball to start the second half I'd just kneel it out. However, MOnken has proven to be incredible so I had no issues with him wanting to be aggressive and maybe get in field goal range. You'd think that would incorporate downfield passing but we did not.
First down- complete pass for 7 yards. We have 3 timeouts but instead of using one, or hurrying up-tempo like we did on our opening drive, we let 20 seconds tick off before our 2nd and 3.
2nd and 3- incomplete pass. After this, there's less than 20 seconcds left, clock is still stopped, and it's 3rd and 3 on our own 27. Any rational or logical thinking at all would tell you that we likely aren't scoring, and if we do score it's gonna take getting a shite ton of yards quickly. At this point, the ONLY options we should entertain are throwing a bomb deep, or runnign out the clock and going to half.
So what do we do? Throw about a 5 yarder towards the sideline. Let's say dom catches it for the 1st and runs out of bounds. There's still like 15 seconds left and we're on our own 30. Odds of scoring are very low.
It was just increidbly poorly thought out. When we received the ball, like I said above, we should have either 1) been content to jsut go to half and run the clock out, or 2) be aggressive, be fast, move the ball downfield to get in FG range. We did neither. We moved slowly, we didn't go downfield, we just farted around while not taking any time off the clock and gave them the ball back. I'm not even fixated on the fact that hey scored since hindsight is 20/20.My point is that if you have the ball on your own 20 with 40 seconds left before halftime, there is no scenario that should lead to the other team having the ball before half.
If the goal was to not give them the ball, then we take a knee.
The goal was to get 3 points (to make up for the 3 that they just stole).
The screen was a great first down playcall. Unfortunately, the success on that play doomed us. Any incomplete pass on 2nd down would guarantee Miss St that they were getting the ball back (they had a time out in pocket for 3rd down and could force a punt if we didn't convert).
So what did we do? We tried to convert. We weren't having great success on the ground so the pass to Dom made sense (prior to this game, he had 0 drops on the season). The playcall was actually a run (I'm surprised Tate didn't get a flag for blocking downfield), but Stetson had the option to change it.
2nd down was the key down. Incomplete pass on 2nd down and the only way to avoid getting Miss St the ball back was to convert the drive for a first down.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:21 pm to meansonny
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The playcall was actually a run (I'm surprised Tate didn't get a flag for blocking downfield), but Stetson had the option to change it.
Seems, to me, that the few times I've seen Kirby chastising Stetson with his animations (I won't pretend to know what Kirby is actually saying) is when Stetson employs the "P" in the "RPO" when what was really wanted by the staff for the situation wass the "R".
Was that the case here, an RPO, or was it just a straight up play change at the line?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:26 pm to Cheer
An rpo that is supposed to be a draw kind of has to be changed presnap.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 3:42 pm to Cheer
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Seems, to me, that the few times I've seen Kirby chastising Stetson with his animations (I won't pretend to know what Kirby is actually saying) is when Stetson employs the "P" in the "RPO" when what was really wanted by the staff for the situation wass the "R".
I haven't looked at the replay close enough to know.
What I remember from watching the play was Tate working about 4 yards upfield and the route looking just short of the sticks.
But as I said... it wouldn't matter. Miss state had a timeout. We were punting the football if we didn't get the first down.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 4:58 pm to meansonny
You have to remember we have people who said we sucked so bad that we had to get a transfer from Rhode Island a few years back. Granted, he was considered good on that team and league. He ended up getting on a pro squad, which showed at the very least, he had talent. Making a practice squad is actually a big accomplishment that few get to experience. The dude even started and played some snaps. Yet, they dug in even after that… so, same with Stetson, I think it is great to remind them. If I have a slow day, Ill go back and find stuff that was posted this Summer, still saying Stetson wasn’t the guy.
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