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re: Good article on Kirby
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:20 am to Cheer
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:20 am to Cheer
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maybe McGarity thought Richt would be a poor Steward of any investment,
why would he think that? Richt came into a mediocre 8/9 win program under Donnan and immediately elevated the program. We won the east quickly, won a few SEC titles quickly, and had us as a national top 10 program that expected to win 10 games yearly. Even knowing all that, we were one of only two SEC programs without an indoor facility and were notoriously low paying across the board for assistants. When Richt got here the 600 deck hadn't been built yet so our stadium was considered lagging behind in the arms race of bigger&better. The situation wasn't as bad as our current baseball program but it was potentially heading down that path without proper support, and if Richt wasn't given that support it was strictly because mcgarity was an asbolute buffoon and not becuase of some richt-blaming situation being concocted 20 years later.
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or, perhaps, Smart convinced McGarity that he was the man who would use the investment to take the program to the next level?
I'm sure smart did point out exactly what he would do but there's a decade difference int eh two situations. Kirby also could point to his many national titles from a program that knew hwat it takes to win them and point out all of our shortcomings. And, as someone else mentioned, mcgarity really had no choice because if he didn't hire kirby someone else was about to.l
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Is the new narrative that Richt would have won a natty had McGarity made these investments?
Nobody has said that, except for you right now. Sure it might have HELPED, but that was the sole #1 reason we didn't win a title with richt. The only "narrative" here is the black and white indesputible fact that richt was not given the resources that most of his peers (and certainly his successor) were. That is inarguable.
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:24 am to deeprig9
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I agree with all of this. Firing Richt wasn't popular.
It would've been unpopular in 2009. I think yall are misremembering 2015 because at the time pretty much everyone knew it was time. That doesn't mean it was "popular" or celebrated, but people knew and accepted that the time had come.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:31 am to Cheer
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which makes the McGarity decision all the more ballsy and amazing. A true riverboat gambler.
this is such an odd troll, and one that wouldn't even play anywhere other than perhaps this one very speicfic message board. what mcgarity did was no different than saban being forced to play tua in the 2nd half of the 2017 game, people always talk about some great strategy or big ballsy call, bullshite. It was desperation. There was no other option. Jalen hurts had like 30 yards passing and led them to ZERO points. There was literally no way you could feel you did your best to win a title by trotting hurts back into the game. It was a back against the wall move that had to be made because there were truly no other choices to be made. BEcause of the fact that it happened to work out seems to distort people's view of events. And that's what happened with mcgarity. Richt was running on fumes towards the end and we put together the most uninspiring, boring, uncelebrated 10 win seasons you can imagien in 15/14. That's off an 8 win team in 13. In 15 we needed OT to beat ga southern and barely scraped by most everyone else. Everyone knew it was time to go, even if we liked richt personally. But to complicate things, kirby was ready to leave alabama and finally be a HC. He'd flirted heavily with AU in the past but they're dumb and wouldn't let him coach bama in the NCG so they passed on him. Kirby was extremely close to taking the SC gig and was going to if UGA didn't make the no brainer, obvious decisiion.
If you want to claim mcgarity is some kind of genius AD pulling all the right strings, expalin all his other outright and utter failures of coachign hires? Just about everyone else he hired prior to kirby was laughbaly bad wiht disastrous consequences. Our gymnastics program still hasn't recovered from his handiwork and possibly never will at this point.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:16 am to WG_Dawg
McGarity fired Richt and hired Kirby, and some of y'all will never forgive that man for this sin.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:28 am to Cheer
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McGarity fired Richt and hired Kirby
both of which were absolute no brainer decisions that required zero balls or advanced planning or thinking skills.
The fact that they were the correct call doens't invalidate the other myriad of dumbassery under his watch
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:37 am to Cheer
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McGarity will always be OK in my book for making the unpopular decision to fire Mark Richt. It was the right move, and he took a ton of flack for that. He "anguished" over even making the decision, possibly because of just how unpopular the decision would be.
He'd have never done it if Kirby hadn't started talking to South Carolina. It was reactive instead of proactive, which is a perfect phrase to sum up McGarity.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:38 am to WG_Dawg
On a scale of Genesis to Revelation, just how biblically mad did McGarity firing Richt make you?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:46 am to Cheer
I was glad we got rid of richt. It was obvious to anyone paying attention a change was needed.
Did you expect me to say it was a mistake because he was a good man?
Did you expect me to say it was a mistake because he was a good man?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:07 pm to Cheer
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McGarity fired Richt and hired Kirby, and some of y'all will never forgive that man for this sin.
Complete garbage.
I was ready to get rid of him after the 2014 loss to UF.Doesnt change the fact that McGarity was shite as a Athletic Director and the only reason he pulled the trigger on Kirby was because SC was knocking on his door.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:58 pm to WG_Dawg
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WG_Dawg
Homie, let me apologize. I was just trolling. Bored at the doctor's office this morning.
McGarity pulled the trigger on Richt too late. McGarity was a puppet, and didn't know whether to shite or wind his watch unless someone told him too.
Of course.
Buuuut. It was an unpopular decision. Don't fool yourself on that. I'll grant you that it was less unpopular then than it would have been if he would have fired Richt when he should have. I remember a lot of Richt guys caving at the time.
However, that I myself was shocked when it happened tells you just how abrupt it was. I wanted Richt gone for years, and was very vocal about that.
But, I'm dead-arse serious about a statue, lulz. "THE MAN THAT FIRED MARK RICHT!"
And there was a frick ton of "Miss Me Yet" homos in 2016, celebrating every Kirby "misstep". 2017 kind of killed their buzz, and now they have fallen in line, trying to blend in.
I WUZ ALWAYS A KIRBY GUY, BUT MARK IS A FINE CHRISTIAN MAN is a dead arse giveaway.
Like anyone but me has ever questioned that.
Sorry for the troll. I don't like McGarity. I definitely do not like Richt. I'll try to keep the trolling on the Rant.
No promises.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:33 pm to RD Dawg
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I was ready to get rid of him after the 2014 loss to UF.Doesnt change the fact that McGarity was shite as a Athletic Director and the only reason he pulled the trigger on Kirby was because SC was knocking on his door.
Completely agree. I still don't understand how we looked so bad against UF that day. I remember it being unseasonably cold and windy in Jax that day, but Treon Harris kept running essentially the same off tackle run play over and over again and we had no answer for it. Just a bizarre performance.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:08 pm to Cheer
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On a scale of Genesis to Revelation, just how biblically mad did McGarity firing Richt make you?
This type of thing is why the old board died. It was supposed to be edgy twelve years ago?
I remember you specifically for wanting Grambling State’s Doug Williams to replace Richt. Other cool dude’s at the time wanted Dan Mullin, Petrino, Jimbo and much much worse. None of these bums worse than actively petitioning for Doug Williams though. Haha
Richt Derangement Syndrome was the precursor to TDS. All the try-hards were afflicted .
Posted on 12/28/22 at 7:43 am to Rex Feral
McGarity was a good AD. People forget so soon... everyone was screaming and criticizing him that firing Richt and how wrong the move was. He didn't listen to any of those losers and went ahead and fired Richt and hired Kirby. Here we are now with an NC won and a second one potentially coming up. Richt's 15 years, he can't even sniff one (don't give me that 2012 crap, Richt never got us into the NC game). Give credit where credit is due, McGarity made the right call regardless of the shite he got.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 7:50 am
Posted on 12/28/22 at 7:50 am to Cheer
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Homie, let me apologize. I was just trolling. Bored at the doctor's office this morning.
You don't need to apologize to me or anyone about anything. It's a message board, do your thing.
I just thought the whole "mcgarity is awesome and needs a statue" schtick was pretty out of left field.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:13 am to MadQfrog
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McGarity was a good AD.
Lol
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People forget so soon... everyone was screaming and criticizing him that firing Richt and how wrong the move was.
As I recall, the criticism was calling a press conference and firing richt with richt sitting right next to him.
That is pussy footing the firing and awful PR. It is attempting to say that Richt will always be a dawg. But then he took a job less than a month later.
Mcgarity is tone deaf. He doesn't read the room or situation. He clucked along to the beat of his own drum and everyone was constantly asking what was going through his mind because he continually screwed up.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:59 pm to Cheer
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Is the new narrative that Richt would have won a natty had McGarity made these investments? I've heard the narrative that Richt, with a playoff, would have won one.
That’s not a new narrative. It was widely known McGarity was a cheap arse. And he only opened up the checkbook for Kirby because the boosters threatened him. He deserves little to no credit for where our program is at.
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