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re: Cops are Heros and they protect us.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 6:16 pm to Whiznot
Posted on 12/30/14 at 6:16 pm to Whiznot
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I have friends who both use recreational drugs and also vote for politicians who support felony charges for users of illegal drugs. Unfortunately, my friends have been so socialized that they don't realize that they are nuts.
Insanity.
"Well, you can't legalize drugs because everyone would do them," he says as he takes another toke.
If you want to make it illegal to get high and hurt people...fine. But getting high and eating cookies or wigging out on your own property or the property of another with their consent IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF ANYONE NOT AFFECTED.
funny how many "small gubment" conservatives fail to get this shite...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:12 pm to HellRaisingDawg
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:20 pm to Tropic Lightning
I ain't clicking on that, bitch...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:57 pm to HellRaisingDawg
Click it you whore.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:08 pm to Tropic Lightning
frick your waffles...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:24 pm to HellRaisingDawg
If you don't frickin click the clink...I'll do it. And I'm not talking waffles...I'm talking family portrait.
CLICK IT
CLICK IT
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:48 pm to Tropic Lightning
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:52 pm to Tropic Lightning
Oh....family portrait? In that case,......
GAH!
GAH!
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:54 pm to Leghumper
Hey, humper...why you stealing my thunder? I posted that link a page ago, arse-gasser.
WHEEEEEEEE!
WHEEEEEEEE!
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:12 am to Tropic Lightning
Great memories from that song.....if y'all didn't live in the late 70's you missed out on a great era to be young, dumb and full of....shite among other things! Thanks for the memories!
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:36 am to Leghumper
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Cops are Heros and they protect us. NYPD finally getting the right idea.. leave us the frick alone and stop with the money grab!
Pretty interesting phenomenon.....what the cops are doing is the oldest form of successful labor action ever undertaken by man. The practice is called " wobbling" after the Wobblies, and it has been used throughout the history of man to gain better working conditions. Slaves wobbled, even office workers and professionals wobble.....take a look at any management literature written In the last 100 years and you will find references to worker moral, lack of production, and how to correct or adjust for the action of wobbling. When people are not satisfied in their work they are less productive.....it may be an organized lack of production, as in this case, or something that just happens....either way it costs the man money and that is the only way to get the mans attention.
Wobbling is much more effective than striking because the participants are still being paid and management has no chance to hire replacements. I have been involved with organized labor my entire life as a member, as management and as an owner of a company with a collective bargaining agreement. I have wobbled and I have been wobbled and I know first hand that the method is very effective. In my 50 years I can't think of a single strike where workers benefited in the long run....on the other side of that I can't think of a single time I have ever been involved in or heard of a wobble where whatever grievances were at issue were not solved in a very short time and usually in the favor of the aggrieved.
I know you anti-labor types will claim wobbling is a theft by lazy malcontents but the practice is exactly what capital does when they idol production during periods of low demand or over supply. When you produce automobiles and they aren't selling you slow down production...if you didn't you'd be a fool. When you are producing labor and for whatever reason demand slips you are a lazy malcontent if you slow production.
All this being said I ain't sure a wobble will work for Policemen. Their management will no doubt squeal like a mashed kitty but the public at large will enjoy a reprieve from being harassed and harangued for petty offenses that are more times than not mere mistakes instead of intentional acts of crime.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:52 am to germandawg
quote:Except that if demand was really low for the work, then wobbling wouldn't be nearly as effective. It's very different than the scenario you mentioned. And it's not so much anti-labor as much as anti-lazy and thinking you should actually earn your pay. But that's just me.
I know you anti-labor types will claim wobbling is a theft by lazy malcontents but the practice is exactly what capital does when they idol production during periods of low demand or over supply. When you produce automobiles and they aren't selling you slow down production...if you didn't you'd be a fool. When you are producing labor and for whatever reason demand slips you are a lazy malcontent if you slow production.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:23 pm to Tropic Lightning
Tropic why don't you man up and put on a badge before you criticize something that you obviously know nothing about. You read a report, watch the news, and hear some stories and you think you are an expert on how policing works. There are over one million law enforcement officers in this nation. You base your opinion on all of them on a handful of headlines each year. If that's not the definition of ignorance I'm not sure what is.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:37 pm to Georgiaman228
It's way more than a handful...
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:06 pm to Clam Gowder
More than a handful eh? Perhaps but reading a report online in which is pitched to you through a biased writer with incomplete information is not much of a story if you ask me. It is funny to me that the only people who have problems with cops are those who have a problem with authority. I was taught to respect the police. Therefore, even though I have witnessed some officer act like jerks, I still respect them. This whole anti police movement is from people who don't like to be told what to do. Well to bad...


Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:11 pm to Georgiaman228
Humans will always make mistakes. That extends to cops. However, they have a job to do and people demonizing cops based on isolated incidents knowing full well no human is perfect and we all make mistakes is the worst part. We want to hold them to a a much higher standard and we should because they are in an authoritative position but we continue to ignore black on black crime and things like that which is the real issue with most of these communities. You may have a few cop shootings a year that would classify as unjust but in most cases the cop was doing what they were trained to do. Not always, but most of the time. However, you have human beings out there killing each other in record numbers and nobody bats a fricking eye.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:34 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
I agree. I am a police officer and understand the concern people have. But all this anti police rhetoric is only hurting the victims that are left in the wake of these yahoos everyday. I meet people everyday. Both black and white who get there hard earned property stolen, cars and houses broken into, and are attacked for no better reason than some punk wanted a wallet. It's ridiclous. We are not the enemy! The criminals and thugs on the street are! People fail to realize that this is the most transparent and mild mannered policing age we have ever had.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:42 pm to Georgiaman228
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We are not the enemy! Criminals and thugs on the street are!
How dare you bring logic and intelligence into this conversation!
In all seriousness, thanks for doing what you do. Police don't get nearly enough respect in this country.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 3:16 pm to VADawg
Thanks man! I'm just trying to bring perspective. I know there are shortcomings of the police but good gosh we are just human. This world needs a lot more people willing to be humble and examine themselves before pointing the blame at "them over there". There are communities that protect criminals and thugs because they have been taught to hate and mistrust the police. This has got to change. People are crying out for the police to make changes they themselves are not willing to make. That's not how it works.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 12/31/14 at 3:24 pm to Georgiaman228
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It is funny to me that the only people who have problems with cops are those who have a problem with authority
What about the people that were roughed up by police for no reason?
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