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Anyone here do any kind of homebrew/ wine making

Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Malefic Runt
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:11 pm
Ive not gotten into beer making yet, but have been having fun making cheap swill at home for the last year or so as a hobby. Small batches of shine from time to time too

Ive got 12 gallons going now thatll be ready to bottle in about a week. Super looking forward to scuppernongs and watermelon coming back into season. The wife got me a new juicer recently just for it

Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:39 pm to
Are you calling for a Wine-Off, mf’er?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:41 pm to
If so, I’m in.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:48 pm to
I brewed some pyment last year that is currently buried in Calhoun to age, to be openned at a ritual next December.
Posted by Malefic Runt
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:54 pm to
Haha sure thing but I'll probably lose. I experimented with some turbo yeast last batch and essentially made 10 gallons of prius fuel

Im kind of a bumpkin with a pretty unsophisticated "palette". Im perfectly capable of sitting in the woods with my dog and a jug of high test hawaiian punch
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 6:57 pm to
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Small batches of shine from time to time too

Aka You took a cheap handle of vodka and added apples and brown sugar and put it in the closet for s month. Then walked with extra spring in your step having become a “shiner’. Walking on the wrong side of the law
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:00 pm to
Okay, so you’re not working with a kit. Off to a good start...
Posted by Malefic Runt
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:07 pm to
No not quite that bad. I spent about 400 bucks on a cheap copper still off of amazon. I use my own corn mash. I mainly make it to give away though. Ill sip it from time to time at cookouts and whatnot
Posted by Malefic Runt
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:09 pm to
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Okay, so you’re not working with a kit.


This is mainly why i started the thread. Give me some tips! What type of containers and yeast are you using?
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:11 pm to
How do you ensure your corn mash turns the starch into sugar, then sugar into alcohol?

Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:19 pm to
If I make an experimental mash, and want you to distill it for me, what would be your terms?
Posted by Malefic Runt
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:27 pm to
Well i use cane sugar and some dehydrated banana and plum personally. I have a small section of my field that i keep sugar cane. I do use some good ol dixie crystal in the cook too though

How close are you to screven county. Id be more than happy to give you some hooch
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 7:36 pm to
Thanks for the offer, but I'm a loooong way from Screven County.

But, I've always wanted to make some apple jack. But I don't have a still. Years ago, I read that you could "freeze distill" it.

So I got some raw unpasteurized fresh press apple cider from Mountain Rest SC, fermented it properly into "hard cider".

Let me back up. The method of freeze-distilling Apple Jack is that barrels of hard cider would start to freeze in winter, so they pour off the liquid, which is mostly alcohol, because alcohol won't freeze, see?

So I thought I would recreate this in jars in my freezer on my Jefferson River Rd rental in Athens in the same Winter that Cam Newton won the god damn heisman.

I put a mason jar in there, hard cider, checked it every ten minutes or so, until it was about halfway frozen. Then I take it out, pour off the liquid (high proof), then discard the ice.

I repeated this with many jars. I didn't have alot of responsiblities at this time. Once my initial 2 gallons had been "distilled" down to about a gallon, I repeated the process.

I finally got it down to about a half gallon of "Freeze Distilled Apple Jack".

I took about five sips and got a headache that still hasn't completely gone away.
Posted by IT_Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:21 pm to
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How close are you to screven county


You ever hear of Tyler McCabe? Played catcher down there in high school from 1997-2001
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:34 pm to
My friend has a pretty cool beer brewing set up. My son and I spent a Sunday in the fall helping him brew some beer. It was a fun experience. My son liked the malt liquid that was produced during the process because it was sweet. He also like grinding the hops and the barley.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 8:08 am to
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Ive not gotten into beer making yet

If you can make wine, you can make beer, and the best part is you can make better quality. A decent homebrew is as good or better than most of what you can find in the store (start with a tried/true recipe before making your "watermelon, cilantro duck fart sour sout" or whatever insane combo you want to try ).

I've got a 15 gallon batch setup I've been using for a while now, brewing anything from Pale Ales and IPAs, to cream ales/wheat ales, and heavy stouts... really everything in between that isn't sour. I like a sour beer occasionally, but biggest issue is that you really need a dedicated setup for them if you don't want to ruin everything else that you brew. Sanitization in homebrew setups can be challenging and lacto/brett are notoriously "clingy".

Good luck with the wine and let me know if you decide to get into beer and have questions. GREAT forum for homebrew info: LINK /
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:03 pm to
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If you can make wine, you can make beer


Not true. Making wine is much easier than making beer.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:06 pm to
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Well i use cane sugar

quote:

I have a small section of my field that i keep sugar cane


You are making rum.


quote:

and some dehydrated banana and plum


Sounds ok, but you might want to think about adding those flavors afterwards. During fermentation, you lose so much of that flavor, then during distillation you lose even more.


Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:03 pm to
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Not true. Making wine is much easier than making beer.


I've never made wine at home.. so I guess I have no direct frame of reference. However, I have taught some of the least scientific meatheads you can possibly imagine how to brew beer and they've done just fine...

Knowing people both at professional breweries and wineries, I'd say that neither of them is any easier or harder than the other... just depends on where the time gets invested and where the knowledge is required. Perhaps on the home batch scale for wines this is less the case?

Regardless of the accuracy of my previous comparison, if you can clean and sanitize things, you can boil water, and you can accurately monitor temperature, you can brew beer.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:47 am to
Wine:

Pour juice in bucket.
Sprinkle yeast in bucket.
Add additional sugar if recipe calls for it.
Stir. Cap with airlock.
Stirring or agitation several times a day the first couple days.
Then wait. This is the hardest part for people.
Bottle. Add stabilizers (kills remaining yeast) if sweet.
Wait longer.
Done.


Beer:
Bring exactly 4 gallons of water to exactly 162 degrees.
Sprinkle in crushed barley until temperature get down to between 150-153 degrees. Any hotter, and the enzymes created will make your beer too sweet. Any lower, your mash turns into dough. Hopefully you got your water volume and grain bill exactly right, so when you put in the last of your grains, it's 151.5 degrees. If it gets down to 150 and you still have grains to add, better crank the heat.. but not too much... add the rest of your grain, stir very well, constantly monitoring temp, keeping it between 150-153.

Then wait about 20 minutes for the enzymes to do their work, go ahead and heat up a second kettle of water to 180.

Place a third cooking vessel underneath the grain cooker. Slowly open the spigot so the liquid begins to slowly trickle out. You want to add the 180* hot water to the grains at the same rate you are draining it, the slower the better, until your kettle is full to whatever mark the recipe calls for. Say, 6.5 Gallons.

Now, you may want to test your pre-wort at this point with a hydrometer. The problem is that is won't be accurate at 170 degrees, so you have to do math to convert it. Additionally, tiny bubbles will stick to the hydrometer throwing off your reading. Give it a good spin, and take three different readings. If it is not dense enough, stir in a pound of dry malt extract. If it is too dense, that's actually a good thing. Your final product will have an extra kick. Or be syrypy if your mash temp was over 155.

Now begin heating the drained wort. Only after the kettle begins a rolling boil, put in exactly the amount of hops the recipe requires, with the exact strain (or AA content) listed. Boil it for exactly the number of minutes the recipe calls for. Too long, too bitter. Not long enough, will taste like Barley flavored koolaid.

As your boil is finishing, add the finishing hops following directions exactly.

Now is time to strain into a fermentation bucket. It must be very clean and sanitized, beer is much more prone to infection than other fermentables like wine.

Then there's all the steps for fermentation, secondary fermentation, dry hopping, bottle vs kegging, aging practices, carbonation strategies and dangers, etc.



This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 11:50 am
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