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re: 2022 Recruiting Thread (EJ Lightsey is a Dawg!)

Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:03 am to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:03 am to
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You guys act like I am saying he has no talent and will not be a start. I am not.


I'm not acting like anything. I just didn't like your examples because Burton is a 5 start talent and is expected to be a major player. The other two were exciting because they were unexpected and most people could see the chinks in the armor with Bennett.

I don't think he'll be like Smith or Waddle but I think he'll have one of the best seasons we've seen from a WR at UGA if he stays healthy. A year in the system, with spring practice, a healthy JTD throwing him the ball, and him being played at multiple positions to create mismatches make me believe he'll go off this year. Nothing in football is a sure thing but he has me believing.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25578 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:14 am to
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You guys act like I am saying he has no talent and will not be a start. I am not. I just don't call a player a star after one game. If I did, I would have called Bennett a star after Arkansas game. Or the Tennessee game. Or the Auburn game.


You literally are comparing Burton to Stetson Bennett.
Your first example is 211 yards passing from Bennett with 2 TDs. Bennett's best game is 240 yards. I dont know anyone in the country that describes 211-240 yard games passing as a star.

If you think I (or others) are coming down hard on you, maybe this is why.

Here is the reality about Burton today.
1) He is a better route runner than Pickens
2) He can play more spots for UGA than Pickens
3) He is better off the line of scrimmage than Pickens
4) He is faster than Pickens

Pickens has shown better body control and better high points on the ball. But Burton attacks the ball as well as anyone on the team and more consistently catches the ball away from his body than Pickens.

Burton is a star now because he can do things better than a star in Pickens.
If you dont see that already, you will.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:28 am to
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I'm not acting like anything. I just didn't like your examples because Burton is a 5 start talent and is expected to be a major player.

Okay. All I am saying is at this time I do not consider him a star based on one games performance. One game does not place Burton with the likes of Roquan Smith. Better? My whole point was only that people tend to jump to conclusions and crown players before they are proven.

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I don't think he'll be like Smith or Waddle but I think he'll have one of the best seasons we've seen from a WR at UGA if he stays healthy.
I do, too, and I have said this. But he hasn't yet. I don't say a kid is a star based what he might do. Can he be a star? Yes. WILL he be a star? I have no idea.
Do I think he will be a star? Yes...probably.

But I just don't say a kid IS a star based on what he MIGHT do.

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Nothing in football is a sure thing but he has me believing.
Me too. But are you prepared to say he IS a star based on that one game...right now?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:30 am to
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You literally are comparing Burton to Stetson Bennett.

You have serious comprehension problems, you know that? I didn't compare Burton to Bennett. I compared the reaction of fans for the two players.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25578 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:46 am to
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You have serious comprehension problems, you know that

Thats like, your opinion man.
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I compared the reaction of fans for the two players.


I dont know anyone claiming 211 yards and 2 TDs is a star. Or 240 yards and 1 TD is a star QB.
I dont know anyone claiming Stetson was better than Fromm or Eason or Fields.

These are the subjects that you are bringing to the conversation.
Burton isnt a comparable situation to your examples. That is on you.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:10 pm to
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I dont know anyone claiming 211 yards and 2 TDs is a star. Or 240 yards and 1 TD is a star QB.
I dont know anyone claiming Stetson was better than Fromm or Eason or Fields.

These are the subjects that you are bringing to the conversation.
Burton isnt a comparable situation to your examples. That is on you.


I can't decide if you are being purposely obtuse or you really don't understand. Look. It boils down to this. I do not consider a one game performance to consider someone a star. If you do fine.

I do believe he can become a star. I just want to see it first. Our disagreement doesn't matter anyway, because there is no criteria to determine if someone is a star. So it is pointless. This is the recruiting thread and once again, I have derailed it, My apologies.

You can have the last say, and I will do my best not to comment back so we can get back to recruiting.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39987 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Me too. But are you prepared to say he IS a star based on that one game...right now?


No, that's why I said he's an emerging star and I expect him to have a breakout year
Posted by SunnyDawg
Athens
Member since Jun 2021
5 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:17 pm to
Hey Porter, you seem like you’re in the know with Georgia news/recruiting. I’m attending UGA this Fall and so I’m looking for good boards/resources for Georgia football. Grew up an LSU fan (yeah… I know) which is why I’m on Tigerdroppings. Are there other places besides this board I can find good stuff?
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:28 pm to
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Are there other places besides this board I can find good stuff?




this just reeks of Chicken trying to get us to nark on other UGA sites

no offense sunnydawg
Posted by SunnyDawg
Athens
Member since Jun 2021
5 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:36 pm to
That’s fine, I really am curious though. The TD recruiting board is super active for LSU stuff. Just wondering if a similar resource exists for Georgia.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63922 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 4:12 pm to
"Super active" and "Super Quality" are two different things. I for one am glad this thread only really gets updated with real news, instead of 3 pages a day of shitposting opinions by fake insiders and a bunch of arguing.

ETA- this board and this thread really does have some insiders, the way you know they are insiders is they don't post bullshite everyday. But when they do post, you listen, because it is important. It is real.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39987 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 4:39 pm to
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I’m attending UGA this Fall


Congratulations my man. You're going to have a blast

I usually just read Seth Emerson over on The Athletic since he's got some good stuff over there. I read the the good Senators blog daily to get links to other info. The recruiting info is where we all like to be talkndawgs. They like discussion but if anyone acts like an ahole they get booted with a quickness. SEC Stat Cat is good when you want more in depth statistics for all SEC teams.
Posted by SunnyDawg
Athens
Member since Jun 2021
5 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:25 pm to
Yeah most of the posts are bullshite. But there are some good quality insiders there too. Iota, Vol, etc generally know what’s up. I’m just trying to get familiar with the team. I’ve followed LSU for so long that I know the whole roster. I want to know Georgia’s team the same way considering they’re gonna be my alma mater (for the record, when we play LSU: go frickin dawgs).
Posted by SunnyDawg
Athens
Member since Jun 2021
5 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:27 pm to
Thanks man. I’m already fairly familiar with Georgia just because I love college football in general. Just trying to get into the weeds with it now. Thanks for the links, will check them out. I’ve been reading Emerson already and he does do good work like you said.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39987 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:48 pm to
Vol seems to know some things but Iota is too much of a sunshine pumper to take him seriously.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32827 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:19 pm to
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I am exactly arguing the stats

True freshman
Game with 8 catches 197 yards and 2 TDs


Well, the stats dont support what you are arguing.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25578 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:43 am to
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Well, the stats dont support what you are arguing.


You are free to supply a list of freshmen wide receivers at UGA who can come close to taking over a game like Burton.

You can compare his skillset to Pickens or Hardman.

You have opinions. Expand on them.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32827 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:57 pm to
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You are free to supply a list of freshmen wide receivers at UGA who can come close to taking over a game like Burton.



Even if the list is zero, it doesnt prove your point. To be a proven star, a player needs much more production than a season of 25 catches for 400 yards. Potential and proven are very different things.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25578 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 11:11 pm to
You can compare his skillset to Pickens or Hardman.

You have opinions. Expand on them.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:42 am to
Anyway can we get back to recruiting? Take this bitch fest elsewhere
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