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re: 2020 Recruiting Thread (SVP and Broderick Jones stay committed to the G)

Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:33 am to
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:33 am to
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I just am not sold on Brock.

Brock could be the #1 in the country next year and your not sold on him? Explain. You are also comparing him to a QB that has ZERO talent to see the field at UGA... one is not like the other.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:37 am to
I’m referring to the two both being Georgia boys and having accolades while not necessarily showing any sort of style on the field that fits into what we do. I realize they played in different offenses. But Prince Avenue also isn’t playing anyone that really tests Brock’s abilities and reading his 247 evaluation versus the #1 QB in this year’s class.........there is literally no comparison. To have Brock labeled as the #1 guy in the class is a huge stretch. As someone else said in another thread, there really doesn’t seem to be a clear-cut #1 in the 2021 group, so he sorta falls into it by default.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:38 am to
A lot is going to happen between now and the time Stockton signs. Bobo being back in the SEC is going to be a big hurdle for us with Stockton but there’s time for that to work itself out. I think we’ve also seen that in this age of football, you 1. Need to stockpile good QBs if at all possible and 2. Need to recruit the portal when the inevitable happens and a guy leaves.

Better to start out with Vandagriff and/or Williams and then recruit Stockton based on the circumstances as they change. Who knows, Beck could come in by 2021 and blow the doors off
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:39 am to
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Brock could be the #1 in the country next year


Based on what? Who has he played while helming Prince Avenue?

Go read his evaluation and compare to the top two guys this year. They aren’t really in the same ballpark.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:40 am to
This and Brice was still a physically gifted QB, he just never quite bought into the mental aspect of what the position at an SEC school requires. Dare I say it, I think HS QBs now are seeing a different world than what Ramsey saw back during Richt’s tenure
Posted by AmericusDawg
Member since Oct 2012
8577 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:37 am to
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Alvin Kamara as his running back


JJ Green.
You're right though, this isn't a Ramsey, Cox or Bauta situation/evaluation.

Brock has a faster 40 time and higher vertical than Kendall Milton.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:00 am to
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this isn't a Ramsey, Cox or Bauta situation/evaluation.


I certainly hope this is correct. I was simply asking because I can't believe that a guy playing at Prince Avenue could possibly grade out as the top QB in the country. As I recall, Brice was pretty well-regarded when he was in high school, so I didn't think it was that far off. Even though he played in the triple-option, I believe he was evaluated on his physical attributes and that was what propelled his rankings. I just get the feeling Brock is very similar in that regard since it's not as though he's been playing in a super-competitive classification.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:06 am to
I don't think we were ever able to successfully beat the Wing-T out of Ramsey.
Posted by AmericusDawg
Member since Oct 2012
8577 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:08 am to
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I was simply asking because I can't believe that a guy playing at Prince Avenue could possibly grade out as the top QB in the country. As I recall, Brice was pretty well-regarded when he was in high school, so I didn't think it was that far off. Even though he played in the triple-option, I believe he was evaluated on his physical attributes and that was what propelled his rankings. I just get the feeling Brock is very similar in that regard since it's not as though he's been playing in a super-competitive classification.


I understand. Brice was apart of a team, that while they played in a far superior region, lulled you to sleep with the run and then threw deep a dozen times.

As mentioned, QB's have to make players around them better, and while Brock plays against lesser competition, his teammates are on an equal footing with their opponents.

Jordan Burch, Derrick Henry, Charles Grant and so many others come to mind when thinking of players dominating lower classifications in high school.

Several kids dominate higher classifications, but didn't make their way up our board due to lacking in specific key departments. Everyone raves over Jahmyr Gibbs.... but nobody asks why we really didn't pursue him hard. We had at several guys above him and it had nothing to do with his film, grades, character or anything other than a couple of simple concerns. He's a great kid with an amazing story, but there's a simple reason he was way down, on not just our list, but several others.

Back to QB, a lot comes from film and what can be measured at camps, but it's very tough to gauge how a kid can handle pressure and bouncing back from failure.

That's particularly important at QB, where you can't just rely on talent. It's the immeasurable traits that make a leader and that's what we better be after in this league. We need more leaders.

I'd take Williams in a heartbeat, but personally I'd prefer going all out on instate talent next year with Mims, Morris, Carter, Mondon and others right here in Georgia. Hopefully we lock down the state and cherry pick from across the country, not the other way around.

I'm happy to have guys from all over though.... especially Texas, Nevada and Arizona
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 10:11 am
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:17 am to
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especially Texas, Nevada and Arizona


I’m afraid I don’t know what you mean. Can you elaborate on this vague allusion?
Posted by rawDAWG333
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:19 am to
John Garcia, Jr.
@JohnGarcia_Jr
Hearing Zach Evans may not be going public with a decision tonight. Under Armour staff says he remains on the announcement schedule as of this morning.

Posted by AmericusDawg
Member since Oct 2012
8577 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:34 am to
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Can you elaborate on this vague allusion?


I called Cleo.... she said that we're lucky everyone passed on some top juco guys.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75356 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:45 am to
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Zach Evans may not be going public with a decision tonight.


Booo...
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:04 am to
Well that would be quite strange given that he has sent an LOI in already and plans to EE when classes start next wee

ETA: Evans officially off the schedule. Makes me think we turned him down again or his EE plans have changed or both
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 11:06 am
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:07 am to
Seriously? What the heck???

Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:09 am to
quote:

I understand. Brice was apart of a team, that while they played in a far superior region, lulled you to sleep with the run and then threw deep a dozen times.

As mentioned, QB's have to make players around them better, and while Brock plays against lesser competition, his teammates are on an equal footing with their opponents.


I agree and I trust what you have to say on it. Don't take it the wrong way. If he wants to commit to us, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I just think he may be in an overrated category right this moment, but I'm open to being completely wrong.
Posted by BreezyDawg
Trembling Earth
Member since Dec 2016
3320 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:13 am to
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Makes me think we turned him down again


When did we ever turn him down the first time? And no he already signed his LOI he’s coming to the G!
Posted by CoolMtnDawg
Where The Cool Streams Start...
Member since Oct 2017
1008 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:18 am to
I've read a few posts from paysites that are saying something has changed and UGA may not be accepting him. Like an incident, or maybe grades.

Don't think it's Evans.....I think it may be UGA. Radi says he believes a school can release a kid from an LOI.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:18 am to
Evans was going to go public back in July but Kirby shut it down after his first blow up with his HS coaches. Only recently did Kirby give him the go ahead to sign with us after he met certain conditions we had given him.

So either we’ve released him from his LOI and now he’s back to the drawing board or he has just decided to announce in a different way or not announce at all. He’s supposed to be an EE and class starts next week so I guess we will see if he shows up
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48481 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:19 am to
Schools can release from LOIs, yes. It’s a contract that 100% favors the program and bonds the student to the school, not the other way around
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